It's the only non-custodial wallet in which you can receive a small amount of sats (say, 500), with an empty wallet(this is the typical first experience of many people):

I tried to do the same with other wallets but it wasn't possible.

The only one that worked was muun.

Phoenix has a 1% fee with a minimum of 3k sats for channel creation. Also the first deposit on an empty wallet must be at least 10k sats.

Also, it's extremely easy and cheap to receive sats with Muun and then send them to an on-chain address.

Of course it doesn't have all the advanced features of other lightning wallets, but you can have more than one wallet for different use cases.

People love Muun because it has a beautiful user experience. Specifically, the wallet abstracts away the concept of "channel" and makes it look like on-chain and lightning coins are the same coins (which they ARE!).

Other wallets separate the two kinds of coins; it is confusing to newcomers. Is BTC coin different than LN coin? No! Muun makes it intuitively clear that 1sat=1sat.

Just the ui/ux the common man will pay those fees to be able to seemlessly do that i remember moving sats on and off lightning it was like???? however looking back its simple to break down once u can see the layers simply throwing value onto a level 2. Just an easy wallet to on board people and don't have to explain layers and lightning and on chain...with that being said I am taking all u have said into account and saw u suggest blue wallet of course that is an awesome one. any thoughts on simple bitcoin wallet? other than bw....sbw has been very nice to use...also samurai,sparrow,wasabai gotta marry one kill one f**k one GO!

Why do you want sleepy users to wake up?

I was under the impression that it is self-custody, i.e. it gives you a seed phrase, and so it is good. My other wallet is ZBD, because gaming is cool and an @ email address like lightning address is cool, but it doesn't give me a seed phrase to save. But both work pretty fast, yes there is a slightly higher fee in Muun than ZBD.

Because it's what @koob told me to download :)

The complaints are valid, I wish they would have more LNURL and other features, but also the fee issues are not happening for all payments. E.g. I didn't yet hit any fee problem. I can send 5000 sats from Breez to Muun over LN with 1 sat fee and immediately withdraw to onchain with 1 sat/vB ... And this makes it the cheapest way for me to get from LN to onchain.

Huge fan of breeze, because love all the stuff that they have. Podcast, wallet, bitrefill, ln-auth, etc. But give me "no route" too much. Also very heavy, or my phone too old.

But muun just work, isn't the better in UI/UX, but is fast, no route is an exception, also support taproot and online/offline. Still would love support por ln-auth.

Muun definitely has its faults. Lacking support for a lot of LNURL stuff is a big one for me. I replaced it with SBW as my daily driver. However, I like Muun because its extremely user friendly. So user friendly I recommend it to new-coiners.

I think unified balances are the right direction when it comes to mobile wallets. My ideal lightning wallet would basically be a fusion between Muun and SBW with some extra features:

I think each wallet targets a different niche, Muun is defs a noob wallet, and looking to strike the balance between both base chain and LN but removing the complexity for the user so you pay for that convenience, eventually, you learn if you want to save on your BTC experience you may want to migrate to a new wallet

Everyone values UX differently

I'm making my way through different lightning wallets. First was wallet of satoshi & now muun. Next step is to run my own lightning node.

I haven't paid big fee's through muun. Haven't looked into how it works, but I like how you can directly send lightning without an on chain transaction first.

Not sure why you are getting high fees.

I usually pay between $0.05-0.08 to send 2 million satoshis from my LN wallet to my Bitcoin wallet.

Is that considered high?