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We both love to discreetly launde-- transfer money internationally!

We both don't make the rules :)

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Only one group is self aware of this i suppose

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I would say in both groups there's an inner circle more in the know than the outer, so it's another thing we have in common

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Energy production is good.

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It's what they know but maybe not necessarily say

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Governments lie and are constantly in internal conflict.

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Well, I hate to be that guy (not really) but governments are not people. Bitcoiners can have a rational thought. Governments are beasts full of individuals with different agendas often fighting against each other... come to think of it people are often conflicted as well.

The first thing I can think of is governments and bitcoiners work to justify their existence. Governments do not exist to server their subjects. They exist to continue existing. So that is different from people. People know they will not exist forever so most seek to maximize impact and enjoyment.

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this is true of all 'entities' that emerge in nature - they fight to survive

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Stability is good and safety is important.

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do they believe in that tho?

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Yes. As gangsters that run the world, they prefer safety and stability they can control for tax revenue/control.

Bitcoiners like safety of person

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Is the cheapest and efficient way to move money

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Lol, nope. Government looks for control over speed and efficiency always. If what you were saying were true governments would adopt bitcoin and run lightning nodes.

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To keep stacking

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I interpreted the question as they SHOULD agree on.

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they'll likely figure it out before this stack goes to 0

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Building a electrical infrastructure and stay out of trouble.

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government? staying out of trouble??

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There is serious value in Bitcoin

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