Besides CBDCs...
What else are the seemingly "innocent" tech trends that you'll have NO part of?
I think I know @darthcoin's answer...
An obvious one for everybody here: Alexa and her imitators.
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I would be ok with Alexa like device that is local, does not connect to third party servers for everything, unless I command it do to it, like "google something for me". Something like Siri offline mode, but open source.
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You might be interested in looking into the Home Assistant solution to voice commands
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Thanks! Now I remember seeing that project before, but had already forgotten about it.
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Yeah it's pretty cool, and 2023 was when they committed to solidifying voice commands. They post regular updates on their blog https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/ there are some pretty awesome posts detailing each step of the way I'm not actually a user of Home Assistant, as I live in a poor country and getting the equipment to setup a smart house is very expensive lol but I did look into it at the beginning of the year and their focus on finally getting voice work done was what interested me the most
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I felt off about these and Siri and all the other voice bots ever since they first hit the market…such an obvious red flag
Anything I can “turn on with my voice”…HELL no
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Lol Sam Altmans eye ball scanner, apple pay, siri, tiktok, face scan to unlock oh theres so many
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Why not apple pay? Seems relatively privacy conscious in practice.
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Definitely better than Google Pay.
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No particular reason its just not a tech i've had to use or felt I needed
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chairs ... somewhat of a joke because I'm more of a chair minimizer than a chair refuser
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Mr criss cross apple sauce
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I didn't realize criss crossing apple sauce was a California thing ... but I guess it's what we decide to call sitting indian style when we've never experienced a bad day of weather in our lives :)
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I don’t think it’s exclusive to California. I’m not from there and I’ve heard of it lol
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Oh well take that @Car
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Can confirm. Criss cross applesauce spreads far beyond california
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🤣 I thought you made that up.
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I got rid of my shitty armless chair that was falling apart, have been doing standing work for a few weeks, but still think I need a nice ergonomic chair for extended typing work, don't have the funds for a good standing desk atm
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I don't like standing while working for long periods either. I'm too fidgety - I just want to walk around.
I usually sit on the ground or on @john's exercise ball.
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funny.. everyone gives me shit for liking to eat meals without one.. I
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interesting take but I agree. I have a standing desk I love to take full advantage of. what do u sit on at the desk, yoga ball?? lol
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Meta’s suite of social media apps
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Smart cars. Its not a boolean but I do not want an Internet connected car. The Tesla would be the extreme example. I'd rather drive older cars. In a few years I may have to go to vintage cars and back to the old days of working on my own vehicles more.
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It's ok to have Internet connection to a car, but not to the anything that involves handling, like ECU.
I had Android touch screen double din installed on my old 1990s Honda Prelude, which I used for parking camera, listening to music, Waze navigation and connecting to the phone while driving for hands free talking while driving. But it was not connected to other car systems.
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So you had control over the hardware is what you are saying? That's different.
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No, of course I don't have full control over some Chinese Android device. But it's not connected to anything that can impact handling of the car. Only to the power source, speakers, parking camera (which that car didn't have by default), mic, GPS antenna.
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So its like having a phone with you. I see what you are saying.
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Yes, but with bigger screen (better for Waze) and connected to the audio system of a car (so that when there is police or speed cameras in front, music gets quieter and nice womans voice warns me :) ). And without built-in SIM card and Internet, need to connect phone via Wi-Fi hotspot for that.
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What about open source addons like comma to make your dumb car smart?
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Never heard of it.
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No idea, none of my piece of shit cars are supported. Sold my nice car to stack harder.
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condoms probably
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Micro-chip attached to hands for ID verification
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airpods - I don't want earbuds that need to be charged that look like cum nuggets in my ears, kept in a little suppository box. Ew.
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My biggest stress with these is that I will just lose them, wires helps in this regard.
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honestly i love them, they are incredible to travel with
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Everyone hates them until they get a pair. Amazing technology. Would be a huge unicorn company on their own.
Unfortunately it only exacerbates the social disconnect people have as everyone further isolates into their phones/music/social media.
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yeah if you have em on while out in public, then definitely isn't exactly promoting sociability
but if Im on a train, plane, long bus ride, whatever - having them makes the trip much more enjoyable
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💯 agree.
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It also isn't clear what long term effect they have on the head and face. Every electronic device has a magnetic and electrical field around it which does aggravate cells to some degree. Airpods also have RF to add on that. It probably isn't a good idea to have electronic devices on your head for long periods of time. We will know after a few generations.
Jack Kruse woke me up to this. Now I try not to wear any headphones.
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Using fingerprints to unlock my phone. Guess because I have watched too much films where fingers are cut off from persons to unlock something.
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just wait until you hear about face unlock
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At least I could try to block that with some bigger hangover. :D
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On GraphineOS fingerprint is a second factor for convenience. If the phone is powered off the password is still needed.
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At least with fingerprint to unlock, I know which limb gets cut off...
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They don't even need to cut your finger off.
They can force you by law to unlock your devices if you used biometric authentication.
They can't force you to tell a password.
At least that's German law afaik.
btw, there are three types of authentication:
  • knowledge (PIN, password)
  • possession (RFID card)
  • inherence (fingerprint, eye scan etc.)
Ideally, you want MFA which covers all three types.
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Sure, and it's easier to fool a fingerprint/face-sensor than to crack a password.
Biometrics should never be anything more than a user name
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Depends on the password
Passwords have their own set of problems:
Password managers with a very good master password mitigate most problems though imo
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I think I know @darthcoin's answer...
which is?
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You should have hashed your answer to commit to it so we know you didn't change your mind, lol
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shitGTP
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UBER, LIFT, ETC... I know my answer is not a proper technology per se, but I have never order a service like it.
In my city, there are services like that but when travelling I prefer to use metro or bus over Uber.
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yeah im the same, and trying to walk as much as possible
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  • shitGTP
  • anything named with smart
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let me tell you about binance smart chain, the future of finance. i promise this one is not like the others
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Smart-anything.
I really like this joke:
Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via alexa! I love the future! Programmers / Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an unexpected noise.
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Hahaha. Nice one!
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I used to joke by saying that I study paranoia when people asked me.
I focused on cybersecurity in university during my degrees in computer science.
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ignorance is bliss they say
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It truly is
Deep inside, we all can relate to Cypher from Matrix, I suppose.
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I think the main issue is that there was a massive shift in priorities when "smart" things came around.
Most companies just wanted a quick buck by selling their customers data.
That wasn't really a thing back in the days. Companies would just create things and sold them. Now they sell subscriptions and your privacy.
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Try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Smart things are tools just like anything else and a tool is only good if it serves a useful purpose and delivers more good than harm. For MOST "smart" things yes, we agree that they're useless (eg dishwashers, fridges, washing machines etc). But there are a few legitimate exceptions we think such as light bulbs, heating/cooling systems, security cameras, solar systems. Many of those smart enabled products are also terrible too. It's like the 1% of the 1% that are legit.
Connecting something to the internet is not smart. Making an existing device better or fully automated is. Too many manufactures tend to the former without addressing the later.
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lol, so true
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Smart watches. I don't want/need another screen.
But the open source ones do seem like fun: Watchy or PineTime.
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this is a big one...if i want to check time on a screen ill use my phone
i dont track exercise with it but I guess i get it for those who do
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Dumb watches still work plenty good.
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tiktok and other short-format horizontal video content
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I could have written that reply - same here.
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Cars. Any car. I live in the city. Cars are 4-wheeled spyware requiring KYC insurance, requiring you carry an ID, require you support the fossil fuel industry for the life of the car, require a fiat backend with a bank and debt, require washes, flushes, vacuuming, exhaust compliance, oil changes, brakes, tires, major repairs, attract police interactions, accumulate tickets and violations, require you look for parking, cause stress for break-ins and side-swipes, lose value, and put you in joyless traffic. No freedom to be found with these debt traps. It's about image for 80% of car owners. You lose time, money, health, and freedom. I enjoy the decentralized transportation and freedom of my folding e-bike thank you very much. If I need a car I can push a button on my phone for Uber, or call some sucker friend. Some people never learn.
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I resonate with this so, so much. I have a Brompton folding bike (not sure they're a thing in the US, but big in the UK). I take it everywhere and it's without a doubt my most prized possession.
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Any technology which requires some biometric information.
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Many airports scan your face at the gate.
Other countries require you to put your fingerprints in their system, etc.
Traveling overseas is basically giving up on your biometric data
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There are many, but if you ask about recent bit, it's PASSKEYS I don't know why, it seems innocent but NO
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What are they?
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Passwordless login infrastructure being pushed currently by Google, Meta, Github etc. AFAIK, It uses our device's authentication capabilities, to login with services. Keyring is already stored in our devices, so it utilizes that. Although, I found no real downside/ data-breach etc, but still a big NO from my side.
Any given day, I would prefer authenticator apps though.
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i much prefer
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ah i am skeptical about that too since it would be single point of failure. I like to keep my identities separate generally
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So you would prefer 2FA for login with lightning or nostr?
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That is one of the way to secure our accounts. Just installing Alby and seamlessly switching b/w apps is great but only until it's not breached and used for low risk application like SN. Once, nostr reaches to a point like emails (used to verify your identity), I feel still keeping separate passwords is the way to go. 2FA TOTP is an interesting option as a secondary layer too. I might be totally wrong.
I would totally want 2FA if I had stacked sats like k00b or DarthCoin or yourself :P
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You can easy and cheaply create as much Nostr identities as you want.
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Lightning login isn't identifiable across sites.
Just don't lose your wallet keys (wouldn't ever use it with a custodial wallet - this is why the mobile lightning nodes like Blixt, Breez, Phoenix are so cool).
Not your keys, not your identity.
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i’m not sure “refuse” is the right word, but i have no interest in VR headsets today.
but maybe it’s just because they look weird, are really heavy, and don’t have a killer app yet.
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Wont be too too long before your contacts are the VR headset
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whats the best movie you watched recently
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self-checkout at in-persin stores!
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ngl i love the self checkout
im rarely buying a big haul from a grocery store
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It's getting worst though because most self checkouts requires you to purchase with cards only.
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i love them too
much easier to have a lot of self checkouts and speed things up
i don't need human interaction at a point of sale. the cashiers probably also have better things to do than scan stuff and count money.
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I scrolled all this way to see if anyone had the same aversion.
If I go to a store or bank and somebody ushers me to a machine, it just feels like a little piece of the world has died. Not the end of the world, just unnecessarily mechanistic.
The worst is if I need to get my face scanned. Fortunately have not seen that in the nation I am living in now.
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The worst is if I need to get my face scanned. Fortunately have not seen that in the nation I am living in now.
Many airports have that technology already at the gates.
They basically have Kinects 3D scanning your face.
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Yeah, my eigenvectors are probably in various aviation databases. As much as that's whack, I can kind of almost let it go based on some ostensible security requirement, because, you know, it's safer for everyone. But my face being tied to my wallet, credit, groceries is just no. I mean, I'm sorry, but anyone that's deluded themselves into 'convenience' above basic human dignity, is just an automaton. It's a mantra that's been pumped into the servile populous, and they don't even care about the world their kids will be living in.
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I'm not against point-of-sale being done with technology that saves time and labor. Just prefer to keep all privacy as a basic right.
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eigenvectors are cool. Just think they're being misappropriated a bit.
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EXCEL, WORD, POWERPOINT
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  • Google suite
  • Apple products
  • Normies social media
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very nice. Usually whenever I am using those services im simultaneously hating myself
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I don't really have a use for uber. I drive or my wife drives everywhere we go. We don't drink so never a need to have a ride home. My wife works less than a ten min walk from our home so she walks to work or I drop her off. Even with only one car now (used to have a second vehicle but I sold it with my business) we rarely have overlapping need for the car.
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Third party IoT devices. I don't have enough faith in companies to not expose my home network with their crappy little devices. I get the utility and have built several of my own but I will only run open source devices I can manage myself.
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wireless earphones
credit card on smartphone
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Amazon One
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Any kind of contraceptives!
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Google pay and Samsung pay. I was going to use it, but then I realized it requires a 3rd party middle man to process a purchase other then the bank or credit company.
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Services that give you suggestions of what to see/read next
Things like TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.
I do have to use a bit of those, but I try to stay away from their "suggestions"
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how do u feel about SN's related tab? 😳 i didnt even notice it existed until very recently
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Had to look for it.
I think it's fine, your attention doesn't change as there is nothing shown to you by default.
And the information is there for the people that want to see something related to the current item.
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Keurig machines...fucking kills me the bastardization of the coffee process....plus the waste seems extreme.
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Neutral link comes to mind
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neuralink?
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Elons project linking your brain directly to the internet (cyborg)
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yeah...that's how we get our brains locked into the metaverse via a shitcoin smart contract
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The rise of deepfake technologies, which can create highly convincing fake videos or audio recordings, raises ethical questions about misinformation and the potential for abuse.
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Its pretty wild but I always think back to the past and my reading of history. The masses have always been easily deceived. The root problem is not the tech. Its us. We are not skeptical enough. In the recent past information was completely controlled by a handful of newspapers and radio/TV networks. They lied to the public. The government lied to the public. Those that knew this and wanted to expose it were very limited. Most people had no access to alternative view points. There was little pressure on these elites. At least now we have the ability to research far more information than our ancestors. The problem is the sheer volume of information. So much of it is noise. Misinformation has always been an issue. I don't believe it is worse. It think the elites have less control over. There are more actors now and many of them are only interested in chaos. Its not good but it could be worse. We could be under complete control of an elite psyop machine with no defense against it.
The defense against all this "misinformation" is skepticism and honestly focusing on what is in your control. A larger issue in society is this addiction to the drip of new information. At least 90% of the time when I hear "misinformation" it is from some corporate media type that is angry that someone is contradicting the message they are relaying from their gov/corp overlords.
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Since they know they have less control they actively try to exacerbate the problem and let the people fight among themselves
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Yep. This has been a strategy for centuries. Its why I try to find common ground with people when they are clearly good honest people but we disagree politically. There is a clear malicious coalition between both US political parties, corporations and the government machine. If they keep the people divided and fighting about social issues the real deeper issues are ignored and they can continue without public pressure. Its really quite impressive how they do it.
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I'm still trying to figure out how we will be able to believe anything of what we see online at all.
Just how, without trust?
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The rise of deepfakes and sophisticated manipulation tools indeed poses a challenge to trust in digital content. Establishing trust in online information may require a multi-faceted approach. One solution is Digital Signature. Implementing digital signatures or watermarking on original content can serve as a form of authentication. If these technologies become widespread and are integrated into content distribution platforms, users may have more confidence in the authenticity of what they're viewing.
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I know too little of hardware, but it seems we need to have hardware digitally sign a video stream continuously in a non reversible manner (via lightning transactions?), tied to a public person so it is verifiable from multiple other sources the person was there... Or similar.
I don't know, too dumb atm to think about it hehe
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How did a man reading the New York Times in the 1920s validate anything he read? Trust? We have always had this problem but recently we have been in a state of being where info was easier to get and confirm. Now technology is returning us to a previous state of uncertainty. They way I handle this is skepticism and prioritizing what I need to know vs. what everyone is talking about. Most AI / Deep fake crap doesn't have an impact on decisions I'm making now. If it did I wouldn't trust it until I could figure out a way to verify it. I have yet to see a deep fake fool people long term. Yet I have seen MANY examples in the last few years of media outlets misquoting people and people repeating it to the point where it is just fact to them. It is trivially easy to check many of these lies but people don't. This isn't new. Media has always lied. Now we can check them but most don't. That is the root issue. I can't solve it for anyone but me. Same goes for you.
The other way I handle this is reputation. Has this person/group lied to me and others in the past. If yes I do not trust them. That doesn't mean all they say is a lie but it means I have to check them. This is why I do not trust any government body to speak truth. They have burned that bridge. I do not trust any news outlet either. They all lie, mislead, and hold back facts to spin a narrative.
The way I would sum it all up is to say we in the west have been naive and we are being forced out it. The handful of people I know that experienced communism do not have this flaw. They aren't naive. Many that I know from the global south are the same. They aren't naive. We apparently have to be burned to learn sadly.
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I'm afraid we don't have any choice on this one.
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im more interested in the memeability of deepfakes.
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im more interested in the memeability of deepfakes. Memes crafted using deepfake technology can add a layer of amusement and surprise, often blurring the lines between reality and satire.
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Shitcoins of course
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I haven't gotten into automating my home. I guess I am fine getting up and turning off the lights.
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fingerprint or face scan to unlock.
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cordless headphones.
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