872 sats \ 8 replies \ @0330830bf9 17 Oct 2023 \ on: deleted by author nostr
Yes, the architecture of apps is very wtf as a practical matter.
Remember that a fake twitter demo was the first client, and it became the "current thing". No logic or reason behind it, and no attempt to be better at any particular thing, just a mindless protest at centralized platforms.
Did you know that every DM you send is making your key weaker too? Most clients are still using NIP04 and now those keys are compromised if users sent a lot of DMs.
Reality has started to set in with at least a small contingent of devs that usability and scale must be considered. This hard work will likely lead to nostr winter in my estimation, as the sugar rush of useless clients fades.
Nostr's real potential is in the projects you haven't heard of yet, contribute to those and tooling.
I'm just being snarky, but this advice is borderline impossible:
Nostr's real potential is in the projects you haven't heard of yet, contribute to those
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lol
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Did you know that every DM you send is making your key weaker too? Most clients are still using NIP04 and now those keys are compromised if users sent a lot of DMs.
Good point. NIP-44 should be merged soon.
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Remember that a fake twitter demo was the first client, and it became the "current thing". No logic or reason behind it, and no attempt to be better at any particular thing, just a mindless protest at centralized platforms.
I think that's very important use case and apps like Damus are focusing and trying to improve it.
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Maybe eventually, but it's important to remember it was a proof of concept and that things like Damus not only put the cart before the horse but then whipped it to death.
It's a pattern of behavior with these attention seeking devs who have a history of doing stupid and unsustainable things and then whining about it "bankrupting me". The Jack bailout is the worst thing that has happened to nostr yet.
Now as evidenced per the OP, Nostr is being judged on the usability because of this.
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The Jack bailout is the worst thing that has happened to nostr yet.
Care to elaborate? You mean when he funded nostr development? Was it $1M?
edit: Ah no, was $1M to Signal. 14 BTC for nostr.
But why do you think it's the worst thing? Development needs funding, no?
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It cemented the direction of building a fake Twitter and most of the funding has gone to that instead of practical more organic development.
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No logic or reason behind it, and no attempt to be better at any particular thing, just a mindless protest at centralized platforms.
A bit dismissive... :)
The nostr first presentation explains quite well what, why and how.
Did you know that every DM you send is making your key weaker too? Most clients are still using NIP04 and now those keys are compromised if users sent a lot of DMs.
You are right kind:4 messages suffer a crypto problem, this sucks, but to be precise and fair, this impacts "only" the DMs itself, not the full key; the theoretical risk is to leak the previous conversations.
When the new protocol (NIP-44) is in place, clients will adopt it, and users will have a new robust private channel with the same key.
Note: I am not an expert in cryptography by any means, I am just following the discussion.
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