> What are you using as a definition of decentralization?

Since we're on to another daily discussion, I'll make a separate post to define centralization :) 



There are many types of decentralization... e.g. single implementation is a centralized attack vector (manipulating devs, manipulating the company backing that implementation, etc). Having multiple different centers is helpful against some of those attacks. 

What are you using as a definition of decentralization?

I quite like this definition of [Trust Models](https://vitalik.ca/general/2020/08/20/trust.html) (yeah... I know...)





nout

There are multiple implementations in different programming languages

I don't think multiple implementations impact centralization. There are dozens of reddit clients. Is reddit decentralized?

You can run the node on your phone ... and there's more LN nodes

Isn't that a custodial lightning wallet and not a node? Essentially using someone else's lightning node.

You can make transactions with your peer without anyone ever knowing about it

This is only true if you have a direct channel with them. Otherwise, all you have is plausible deniability. Besides, privacy is not decentralization. Using cash is also private, but that monetary system is also centralized.

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saloon

> There are multiple implementations in different programming languages

I don't think multiple implementations impact centralization. There are dozens of reddit clients. Is reddit decentralized?

> You can run the node on your phone ... and there's more LN nodes

Isn't that a custodial lightning wallet and not a node? Essentially using someone else's lightning node. 

> You can make transactions with your peer without anyone ever knowing about it

This is only true if you have a direct channel with them. Otherwise, all you have is plausible deniability. Besides, privacy is not decentralization. Using cash is also private, but that monetary system is also centralized. 


