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608 sats \ 3 replies \ @davidw 2 Feb \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon
Enjoy tomorrow gents! Make sure the 15 builders know we still love 'em.
🎯 For SN live today, really enjoyed the philosophical discussion at the end, around digital land/community.
Hope you hold back 10 minutes to end on a subject like that each week. Perhaps leave the conversation topics up for the stackers in the saloon for an impromptu chin-wag.
💯 this week really hadn’t had a chance to talk with @k00b so I think that was just my time to discuss it. Not sure if we could do that again but if the stackers make a post for us to discuss will fit it in.
As to the digital land/community subject. I do need to flesh it out more but like @k00b said it’s just now a mirage. But the closer we get, will come to focus. Digital Reits will def be a thing online, it’s just something I didn’t see coming until territories dropped. (Not exactly the same thing but you get the jist.) The V4V/community model works somewhat, now it’ll be interesting to see what happens next. Wavlake is also another startup that has an interesting take on this via Playlists not exactly the same thing but similar because it scales infinitely.
I guess the point I’m trying to get at is these different “multi-community verses” rn might just be the thing that gets us to the thing that leads to hyperbitcoinization “online” first. Maybe the elasticity was there all along, I just didn’t see it.
sorry for the ramble, too much coffee today
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I feel it too. And it's perhaps the 'prisms' (shoutout to @bitcoinplebdev) of these (micro)transactions and interactions that really brings the future scale. Receiving sats and rewards for content that someone used as inspiration for their own creations. Extending beyond your own social graph, even across domains. Music lyrics being taken and quoted in posts, posts being transformed into lyrics. Or perhaps just straight-up sale of content and pay per hour project work is enough to get us there.
Pivoting off what you have mentioned on the show previously... speaking directly on Nostr seems too large a space currently for you to feel comfortable splashing those sats on random posts. It feels like yelling down a well sometimes. But doing so through a service that interacts with Nostr feels way more valuable.
Stacker News itself is a smaller tighter nit community and the territories provide even more granularity and deeper bonds. It feels even more special and rewarding seeing people's work that you recognise and value.
It need not be a musician, but it's somewhat the same feeling when you find a band or artist in their initial exploratory phase. They are testing and finding their style, sharing their talents, staying true to themselves without any perverse incentives. They are doing it for the passion. And people notice when they stop for any length of time.
That's the frustrating thing about bull markets and open networks in a way. As more people join, it becomes harder to find those people you truly value. This is what Bitcoiners need to optimise for in my opinion. For their product not to lose that sense of familiarity - both in terms of consistency and in terms of familial connection. It needs to strengthen those ties, as the community gets bigger. For it to be easier to find what you are looking for than not.
The opposite happened to BitcoinTalk, it happened to Reddit. Scale is not the enemy, it's the lack of connection that all these mainstream products do not retain once they receive that scale.
P.S. I see your rant and raise you...
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haha love this!
Yes, the intentionality is coming back, and at the very least, sats are making it easier to distinguish the noise from the signal.
đź’Ż agree with the receiving sats for content that you made and extending beyond your own social graph, and possibly even across domains. This "SatVerse" could be something; if it's not Nostr, maybe it's something else.
Who knows, but this elasticity underpinning everything will be created. It's definitely coming.
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