WHY WOULD USE SUCH THING AS ECASH?
The situation with Bitcoin (BTC) and Lightning Network (LN) right now, is not favorable with onboarding billions of people, that are not well prepared and this situation will get more complicated until we could find more practical and easier solutions.
Yes, some old bitcoiners will not see any advantage of using this ecash, other than adding some more privacy on top of the existing LN protocol. Those that have already a lot of liquidity in LN channels and various UTXOs in cold storage, this use case will not bring them too many advantages, except if they want to use ecash as a form of coinjoin their income sources. But that is another story.
But for many new Bitcoin users is quite hard to get started with a UTXO directly onchain and from there running sophisticated LN nodes, public or even private nodes. Managing LN liquidity is not so easy for many new users. Yes, they can use a large number of custodial LN wallets / accounts, but those also still could leak a lot of personal information and easily be shut down or limiting access to users funds.
Return of the Darth!
Hopefully mints will become something like nostr relays.
The obfuscation of bitcoin will smack normies in the face.
Would be crazy if someone created a non-custodial mint.
That's a really cool idea 💡
Hey Darth, thank You for the article.
How are You, I hope anything is fine. We need You here!
Greets from the south
You need to reevaluate your understanding of ecash if you don't think fractional reserve is possible.
You are selling blind signatures that have zero ties to the underlying asset. It is literally digital fiat banknotes from the mint.
Please show me a demonstration where you could do a fractional reserve on ecash cashu. I really want to see it. Otherwise... just STFU.
get out the sabres!
Welcome back to business LN Lord. We missed you here.
welcome back old friend 👀
Thanks Darth. Nice to see you on SN again.
https://m.stacker.news/15649
Thanks Darth, much appreciated finally reading your insights on ecash. Wondering why you're still using a centralized platform like substack!? We can't zap you there!
Simply opsec. Why would I use one of my private domains using my own private hosted servers? Those domains and servers are exclusively for private stuff, separate from "Darth" stuff. Sometimes you should know how to use custodial solutions in YOUR favor. Custodial doesn't mean it should not be used at all. Also SN is centralized, why do you post here?
In life you must learn how to separate private from public.
As said in the past: when SN will provide a better alternative for substack I will move my guides on SN. Until then substack serve a purpose and works just fine.
I do not write these guides only to get sats. Is only V4V. That is not a reason to not use substack. If you read the article until the end you will see the QR and LN address where you can zap. Also you can zap it here (that's why I posted here too).
I know you don't need our zaps, it's just a form of appreciation, please do accept it with joy!
Custodial isn't decentralized, if substack shut down your guides are maybe lost? it would be worth doing a backup somewhere else... what about NIP-23 on nostr?
Thanks @DarthCoin
Sure I would def use it
lol, this read as the start of a big rant about ~ecash
Dropped a nut 🌰
How are you going to protect yourself from getting frac-reserved? Its trivial for the mint to issue more ecash tokens to themselves and spend into the economy. Done correctly it would be very hard to detect this....
Why would you want to replace the whole use of Bitcoin using conventional wallets with using only ecash? Nobody is saying that. Please pay attention to what is presented in the guide.
you can't do fractional reserve with a mint. The only risk is that the minter is deleting the mint or is shutting down the server. But cannot create more tokens than sats he put in the mint.
As I said in the guide: this is not the ultimate way to use bitcoin. Is just another way to onboard more people and accommodate them with sats. Using ecash INVOLVE a certain level of trust in the parties, as I explained the use case: a small merchant using ecash as digital gift cards. That's all.
No even @calle agrees that the biggest risk with ecash is being debased (not on the sats end, but by the mint printing extra tokens to give to themselves).
Lets talk in specifics: What exactly is a "eCash Mint"?
It is a python script that accepts LN and issues signatures....thats it. There is nothing stopping the python script from issuing 1.05x signatures for every sat that is received. That 5% extra issuance would be impossible for any users to detect.
From your guide:
This is not true AFAIK, as @freetx agrees. Please fix the text in your guide @DarthCoin. Good to see you again!
Bit refill?
Bitrefill gift cards are not exchangeable for sats unlike ecash. They are limited to specific stores.
Yeah, you can definitely do fractional reserve with a mint
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Yes yes good 👍
https://m.stacker.news/15720