Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.
Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!
We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!
This is a petition to the bitcoin games. Refill your sats. If you are not going to refill when the price is up, then the whole economics of the games in sats loose sense. Thanks
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I thought I remember there was a way that you could actually remove comments on your own bio page -- did I hallucinate that?
I caught a Paras in the Safari Zone
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lol how does this work exactly?
My dream is something like pokemonshowdown.com but players can bet sats prior to the battle starting.
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Ah got it, the comment box was hidden on mobile.
Almost caught a Rhyhorn. :P
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152 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 8 Mar
I'd guess I'm about 70% done with the beginnings of an improved SN contributor DX. Once I get a lightning regtest network bootstrapping properly, it's mostly further polish.
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I see many people waiting for Bitcoin price to moon so to buy XYZ, but I'm doing the oppositeโ€”craving and digging ancient knowledge so that I can MAKE my own things ( the most practical and beautiful possible ) and, ofc no longer need to touch all the chemical or plastic fiat things, and that's the ultimate win for me: being self-sufficient. ๐Ÿ‘€
now I see what @DarthCoin mean by Bitcoin is his plan B.
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Would you ever consider buying a Bitcoin business with sats? Or always keen to buidl from beginning using those skills of yours?
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Or always keen to buidl from beginning using those skills of yours?
dis, and you get to learn the real stuff from building itself - those knowledge is priceless.
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LOL you guys have flowers and I have 30cm of snow...
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100 sats \ 4 replies \ @Natalia 8 Mar
got ducks too ๐Ÿฆ†
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222 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 8 Mar
and cats, many cats - it seems it's cats' mating season, so noisy at nights! ๐Ÿ˜‚
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lovely!
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204 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 8 Mar
and flowers, now I see what people do when you got all the time in the world - they take care of things themselves.
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almond flower? ๐Ÿ‘€
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Lux 8 Mar
touch some grass, lol
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121 sats \ 4 replies \ @Lux 8 Mar
will become this apricot
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110 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 8 Mar
ohhhhhh! I never seen apricot trees before ๐Ÿ‘€
dont forget to eat the seeds.
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121 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 8 Mar
They don't have apricots in Turkey? I imagine they'd grow anywhere where figs do.
We had a tree in our backyard in California at one point. Underrated fruit imo.
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210 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 8 Mar
I used to make apricot schnapps. Is fucking delicious with aprox 40ยบ alc.
217 sats \ 13 replies \ @Car 8 Mar
โšก๏ธSNL will go live at 4pm CST. Streaming to YouTube, Zap.Stream and Twitter.
Bitcoin only ๐Ÿค™onward
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @davidw 8 Mar
Will the MSM segment replace the cowboy segment?
Tune-in to see if @Car gets his wish at long lastโ€ฆ
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 8 Mar
i wish
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33 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 8 Mar
lol who came up with this one, thats hilarious
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I love these memes! LMAO
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the leg seems too much PS? ๐Ÿ˜‚
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That's a thick, no doubt! She must be doing a lot of squats ๐Ÿ˜‚
When can we expect an epic post from you?
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many epic posts could come after I finish some of the experiments. ๐Ÿงช
guess what I am playing with!
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The anon has already given a clue and I also think it has to do with dyeing clothes. I'm curious because last week I was looking at the history of the color purple and how it was associated with nobles, because it was expensive to make that color. I learned that it was extracted from a sea snail. cc\ @orthwyrm :)
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It depends on what kind of purple you want to get - I tested with madder root last week ( got more than 100 colors with different toning! almost like magic, from pink to dark red, even got some really beautiful purple! )
but you can also get different types of purple from logwood.
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not sure what's in her hand, but I'm playing with these. ๐Ÿ‘€
onions skin toning with alum made a really nice Bitcoin color! antibacterial too.
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277 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 8 Mar
Howdy!
Ignore the price. Stack sats and push ups today. Price discovery will come in due time.
41 days of 100 push ups a day until $100k down. Undetermined to go. 37 days of 100 squats a day until $100k down. Undetermined to go.
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Awesome! Great work so far.
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OOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ__@_'-'
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๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ__@_'-' | Firestarter
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Up and down like a whores drawsโ€ฆ
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that was an enjoyable 6 seconds
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โ€˜Thatโ€™s what she saidโ€™
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3 years of edging for 6 seconds of climax, eh Bitcoin
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Lol. Like an explosion in a yogurt factoryโ€ฆ
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i typed this on a work pc oops
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Thinking a lot about how AI is different from human brains. I think the next few years will be fun, I think there will be more philosophical (and possibly scientific) exploration into things like consciousness and free will.
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What you call "AI" is not intelligence. Is just a computer program (remember is A PROGRAM) that is trained to read what humans put in storage data, information.
The so called "AI" will never have human intelligence, but in time will make humans dumb because they will get too used to use this so called "AI".
So let's stop calling it "AI". Is a total bullshit to enslave more the humanity. That's all.
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I think "intelligence" is technically a fair word to use for something that gathers and utilizes information correctly or accurately, but I would agree with you that a distinction does need to be made.
I prefer to call it the difference between intelligence and wisdom. Just because you can acquire knowledge doesn't mean you can problem solve effectively or think creatively, and LLMs are a great example of that.
AI can absolutely help people gain knowledge quickly, and optimistically, this could give us MORE opportunity to focus on what really matters: the raw ideas and concepts behind the knowledge, the effective application of knowledge, creativity, and real wisdom.
That's why I'd agree with you that distinctions about what AI can and can't do is extremely important for us to make the most of it and avoid being completely stunted by it. Using AI does not inevitably enslave you.
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AI can absolutely help people gain knowledge quickly,
yeah I saw how they gain... by being more dumb
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fwiw the analog clock articles started coming out a few years before LLMs like ChatGPT were available to the public
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before or after people start wearing these?
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that ^ came after the analog clocks and before LLMs haha
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No fun fact today ? @sn
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32 sats \ 2 replies \ @sn 8 Mar
we're live #455980
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thanks
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Lol, should have posted my "fun fact" there.
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611 sats \ 2 replies \ @0fje0 8 Mar
Stacker News is 1000 days old. Maybe 1001 or more by the time you see this.
So what?
Well, nothing much really. Just a fun fact.
In some circles, however, a 1000 days signify some kind of a milestone:
In early childhood development, the "1000 days" concept refers to the period from conception to the second birthday, which is considered a critical window for a child's nutrition and development. This concept is based on the understanding that the right nutrition during this period can have a profound impact on a child's ability to grow, learn, and thrive over a lifetime.
So maybe SN is a toddler now?
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Wonโ€™t let you go unrewarded!
My girl is 15 months, so I feel this very relatable.
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Thanks.
Old cliche, but they really do grow up so fast. Enjoy her while you can!
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126 sats \ 0 replies \ @gnilma 8 Mar
Good morning stackers.
Day 40 of 100 push ups till 100k completed.
Interestingly, my cowboy hat streak is double the push up streak today. I think this is the only time that this will happen, that the hat streak is double the push up streak; unless I lose my hat and/or restart the push up streak or something. The human mind and eye for pattern recognition and adding arbitrary meaning to certain patterns is pretty cool.
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KYC or not to KYC that is the question today!
Pros:
  • convenience
  • access to high liquidity
  • easy to withdraw
  • easy link to dollars when needed
Cons:
  • another place where my ID will be
  • limits
  • no privacy
  • getting no-KYC will cause slippage meaning less sats
๐Ÿค”
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Agreeing with Darth here.
I also see it in the same way as cash money: if you can't pay with btc and need to use fiat, try to use cash iso card. This to avoid that all tx can be 100% traced at some point as everyone only uses kyc cards anymore. Keep the cash system alive, increase the number of cash trades and defend cash money when gov threatens it. This is a proxy fight in defense of Bitcoin (digital cash).
Similarly, in Bitcoin, push up the number of non kyc coins and p2p trades/spends, to avoid an unlikely but possible outcome of ending up as a kyc chain. The less coins that remain non kyc, the better, and the true believers in Bitcoin should lead the way here.
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60 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 8 Mar
Earning it is the best, I haven't bought any for a while.
210 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 8 Mar
KYC is bad because your personal info is out there in multiple hands and you don't know where is traveling and used. THAT IS THE REAL ISSUE WITH KYC.
KYC doesn't really matter if you just buy - withdraw and never sell back for fiat. Just move around the sats through LN channels and absolutely nobody could trace nothing. I wrote several guides about that.
If you can avoid KYC exchanges, then do it ! But if you are forced to use them, don't worry too much. Govs will NOT come after you because you DCA 20 cuckbucks /month.
JUST NEVER SELL BACK FOR FIAT. is so fucking simple. Spend and replace.
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Gotcha ๐Ÿซก
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My cynical thought about KYC is, if someone wanted to track you down via anonymous transactions, they probably could anyway. Especially at the nation state level. True privacy on the internet is almost impossible.
There are multiple ways you can "lose" your bitcoin in the future if you need to.
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We should not consider this as a purely personal point or advantage. It's also about the chain as a whole. The more non kyc coins circulate, the better for everyone in terms of privacy and censorship resistance.
In fiat, if everyone ditches cash money for convenient cards, that opens the door to a 100% controllable money network for the government. Make it hard on them, use and promote the use of cash money and p2p bitcoin.
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Yeah like giving it to scammers like I did.
Or screwing around with wallets or force closes on lightning
Sats always be getting lost!
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Mornin Freaks,
Just started The White Pill - Michael Malice, I'm on chapter 3.
I'm on the verge of deleting apple music
Yesterday my Wife's mom yelled at her for not buying shiba inu at the bottom......
My dog needs a walk.
Thanks, Hustle
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Wow thatโ€™s wild yelled at for not buying a shitcoin
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And this is during the bitcoin bull run.......
Imagine selling bitcoin during the bull market ...as its ripping, get hit with capital gains, buy a shitcoin, hope it rips, then sell and get hit with cap gains again.......and then you take your cuckbucks and buy less bitcoin then you had in the first place. Tis the path to serfdom.
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Yeah people want to get rich quick but can you blame them when the dollars you hold buy less and less. When you see the casino that has become the stock market. Then all the YouTubers and Xers telling you to buy this and that.
I tried to tell so many people just do like $10 a week and just save a little. People truly underestimate what they can do in 10 years with good habits
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True, and imagine thriving through 60+ years of fiat.
(You obviously know whats going on and have a good grip on finance and economics, just look at your stock portfolio and house value, plus Cramer says bitcoin is a ponzi)
Imagine getting the price you deserve.......
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I've seen the term "white pill" more often, what is that? (The term, not the book)
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From my understanding....
Red pilled (conservative) Blue pilled (liberal) Black pilled (doomer) White pilled (bloomer) Orange pilled (corn enthusiast)
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My mom's reading The White Pill.
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91 sats \ 4 replies \ @kr 8 Mar
@DarthCoin has joined the top 5 for million sat madness ๐Ÿ‘€
An old thought that's new again: your own sense of how you work -- what makes you tick, what motivates you, what you like and don't like -- is only a theory. And like every theory, it can be poorly- or well-supported by evidence, poorly- or less-supported by science, and you can be more- or less-diligent in trying to figure it out.
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Needlessly Pedantic Man: "All theories are well supported by evidence. You're talking about hypotheses."
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I'm using the word as it's used idiomatically; but thanks for the pushback, useful to keep in mind.
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the word as it's used idiomatically
This does not matter to Needlessly Pedantic Man.
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Day 81 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 626 sats on 7Mar2024! Running total: 57,483 sats!
888 sats \ 6 replies \ @anon 8 Mar
@k00b @ek have you thought of adding a warrant canary of some kind to the site that you could use if you were ever approached by who knows in some capacity about something that the users might want to know about but you were gagged, that you could then not renew as a signaling mechanism? You could bury it in the Legal page as a paragraph and then not update should something transpire?
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @anon 8 Mar
and renew it once a month if its an all clear
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777 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 8 Mar
I've thought about putting a literal canary icon in the footer. Then if we're approached, have an icon of a dead canary.
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59 sats \ 3 replies \ @anon 8 Mar
you need to set it up to die on its own unless you renew it (feed it), otherwise it can be anti-gag order action
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Like a warrant tamagotchi.
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77 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 8 Mar
Ahhh good tip! I guess they can't punish you for not doing something but they can punish you for doing something.
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Mhh, maybe we can regularly sign something that expires fast enough (a certificate basically) and link to it in the legal page? And when we're approached, it automatically expires and is not renewed. The additional benefit is that only the holder of the private key can renew it.
But that would mean we rely on users being able to verify signatures. Key rotation is simply the first thing that came into my mind when thinking about warrant canaries. But I would think anyone who cares about warrant canaries can be expected to know how to use gpg --verify?
Turns out the first commercial use of a warrant canary also used a digital signature:
The first commercial use of a warrant canary was by the US cloud storage provider rsync.net, which began publishing its canary in 2006. In addition to a digital signature, it provides a recent news headline as proof that the warrant canary was recently posted as well as mirroring the posting internationally.
It's Friday, we all know what that means...
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This was me yesterday waiting for SNL: https://i.gifer.com/7VE.gif
Around 8 I realized it was Thursday..
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I've already got the popcorn ๐Ÿฟ
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wow this gif is amazing! You now work on making a movie about SN based on gifs?
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Haha I wish I was that talented or hard-working. About time we had a quagmire k00b cowboy. Thatโ€™s all for today.
A great day to get together with friends and have a tasty beer.
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Every day seems a fine day for that.
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Good morning my friends!!!! Friday is here and the weekend is almost about to start, so let's give this week one final push, we've got this my friend, let's show it who's boss and what we're made of. I wish you an amazing day and may it be filled with success and joy my friend. Remember that you matter and you're amazing, we can do this. So let's keep the strategies that worked, tweak the ones that did but not the way you wanted and toss the ones that didn't, we'll think of new ones during the weekend, just stay focused and keep the eye on the ball, without further ado I bid you farewell, so be well and stay frosty my friend!!!
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GM Cowboys and Cowgirlsโšก๐Ÿงก
Just keep stacking!
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 8 Mar
love this
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143 sats \ 3 replies \ @_error 8 Mar
Day 002 of spreading smiles until BTC hits One Hundred Bajillion $UZS!
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Send one this way if you have a minute, could use it.
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Ready for the weekend and expanding my Bitcoin knowledge. Gotta do some cold starage key checks and hopefully look into a new lightning wallet
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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @davidw 8 Mar
Morning mavericks, anyone got some great Friday plans?
Wondering if I can or cannot get my new territories post out before SNL?
Iโ€™m gonna say unlikely. Many charts to update and style, but will see what I can pull off ๐ŸŽฉ๐Ÿ‡
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Survivingโ€ฆ.
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Been feeling overwhelmed lately. Hopefully tomorrow morning I can spend some time catching y'all up on the whirlwind that is my life right now. in the mean time, I've got to go off and get to work! re-Installing two pumps with a coworker on a yacht, then who knows how the day ends.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 8 Mar
A bit of laught
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Gone mad in here this morningโ€ฆ havenโ€™t you people got homes to go to?!?
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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Coin. Your sad devotion to that ancient meme has not helped you conjure up the stolen copy-pasta, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the shitcoiners hidden fortโ€”
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MSM fever !
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Saloon shitposting doesn't count for MSM ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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Saloon rules permit that ๐Ÿ˜‚
As AI's tentacles Steal our creative thoughts away Humans left behindโ€ฆ.
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Just take my sats
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128 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 8 Mar
I notice a burst of creativity. Spring inspiration?
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I think itโ€™s frustration at the low quality effort being put in by some copy-pasta botsโ€ฆ. Plus the weather isnt producing many opportunities for work :(
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Heโ€™s channeling his discontentment with MSM in the best way possible lol
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Do you think anyone noticed?
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Duh.
Donโ€™t make me roll my eyes. Lol
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Iโ€™m actually delaying posting an article till April - thatโ€™s how annoying it is.
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You n your stupid pride. Haha.
Love you though. ๐Ÿ˜
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lanter 8 Mar
Howdy people?? Looks like another great day of our journey here in SN. Reminding you all to STACK SATS and STAY HUMBLE
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Pimping Offering my Writing services on ~Agoda
Watch out, Stackers! Sensei is stepping up his Game.
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Funny, you offer writing skills but there is a typo in your comment ๐Ÿ‘€
you still have time to fix
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๐Ÿ‘€
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Pimping or game?
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No, but now I am confused. Maybe it's not a typo but it was on purpose and I just don't get it? ๐Ÿ‘€
Day 78 keeping the cowboy hat ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿค 
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Day 328 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.
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Slow and steady wins the race
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๐Ÿซก
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Awesome work snail!
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445 sats \ 3 replies \ @mango 8 Mar
Day 109 of horseposting
Horse stance: 3 minutes 15 seconds
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๐Ÿซก
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81 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 8 Mar
Do you have a goal you want to reach? I think you mentioned one in the past but I don't remember
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222 sats \ 0 replies \ @mango 8 Mar
Goal was 7 minutes by #840,000..
Things went haywire personally and my schedule went for a toss losing my focus/mindset. Working towards getting things back in order. Maybe I should revise my target to 5 minutes by halving!? to keep it realistic.
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Early today. This could be meaningful
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73 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 8 Mar
Kind of crazy out there at the moment, anything can happen.
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Madnessโ€ฆ
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There's actually daylight this morning when the saloon opens. Spring
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People are already sleeping at the saloon door. :)
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84 sats \ 11 replies \ @ek 8 Mar
Interesting, I caught my first warm sun rays of the year today and it felt like Spring, too
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269 sats \ 8 replies \ @siggy47 8 Mar
BTW, I keep forgetting to ask you this. I couldn't explain well what I was trying to talk to you about a few weeks ago. How hard would it be to just add another type post to the menu which would be an exact duplicate of a discussion post except with perpetual editing allowed? I'm not sure what to call it. Maybe "index?" @DarthCoin, are you here for input too? Remember the other day we talked about this?
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I forgot to reply to the thread where the usual suspects were talking about this
oh, I was even mentioned, didn't notice, I thought I read this thread while driving by
Regarding #449228:
Also, he told me that they didn't love the idea of creating special use posts.
The issue isn't necessarily creating a special use post, but perpetual edits are probably more generally useful (without breaking too much existing UX) and just implementing a special use post would be quite limiting and less worth the time and effort to implement it (and maybe even more complex, special cases are in general (lol) more complex).
However, if we have general perpetual edits, we need transparency via edit history which you didn't like but it doesn't have to be "in your face". So I think it's possible to get maximum value out of perpetual edits and fit your needs. Imo, an edit history would even be useful in your use case so it's easy to see what you added to the index so we don't have to read everything again to find what changed? I am assuming here that you don't want to be limited to append-only edits but actually want to edit everything.
Essentially, we try to prioritize features that aren't "limited" but basically are something that can be used for all kinds of things, in the best case even things that we can't imagine yet.
If we just add a specific post type, people wouldn't get creative with it, I believe.
@k00b and me talked about perpetual edits last week (?) and I mentioned I like companies that send diffs of what they changed in their policies instead of just "hey we updated some stuff" and then send you all 748014 pages again and you can figure out yourself what they actually changed.
But we'll keep your use case in mind, too. I think they are actually very similar. ๐Ÿ‘€
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Yes. Just two things from my perspective:
  1. I like discussion posts as they are. We need an edit limit or it will fuck up the flow of discussion. You could be replying about something that is later edited by the OP. Confusion
  2. For what I'm talking about, having an edit history will cause clutter and be unnecessary.
Maybe @DarthCoin has some input here? The radentor posts are an example of what I'm talking about.
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84 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 8 Mar
We need an edit limit or it will fuck up the flow of discussion. You could be replying about something that is later edited by the OP. Confusion
Yes, this is the greatest concern we have next to straight up abuse (completely rewriting something) but I think it's solvable. We just need to figure something out. At least I don't want to not try at least.
For what I'm talking about, having an edit history will clutter up the kind of posts I'm talking about.
How exactly? You mean because you would edit a lot, like multiple edits per hour? Or because you think the edit history will be immediately visible when you visit a post?
A solution for the former would be to group edits in a specific time period together (like every edit within the same hour shows up as the same edit in the history) and a solution for the latter would be to be show if you click on something like edit history in the context menu:
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Yes. Edit history would be fine in the context menu.
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  1. Agreed, discussion posts remain as it is, with the 10m window (in case you want to correct errors and stuff like that).
  2. Main posts, like long posts, guides, essays, lists etc I would like to have them fully editable. I would not be so crazy to change the whole text, will be just small updates maybe, in time, if something became obsolete or were some mistakes that other readers point them out etc.
Is it nice to have like a small footnote with history changes? Maybe, but that could clutter more the SN database I think. And for what? Just for few readers that will click it for curiosity? Keep it simple.
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Yes, agreed. A "special" type of post, like the ones that @Radentor was doing with the lists of services/wallets etc, that will always be in a continuous change and need updating.
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71 sats \ 1 reply \ @sdf 8 Mar
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Yeah is a bit confusing how the Greenlight works. I spoke with other users, testing Green and they got different amount for inbound. For some, even the splice in doesn't work, for other worked well.
We have to give them more time, is still in early beta phase I think, not ready for the masses.
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52 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 8 Mar
We have that bizarre time change coming up this weekend. We "spring forward" an hour. Man, I hate that stupid expression
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Wait, that probably means it's coming up for us, too
It's surprisingly always a surprise for me
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I wake up with 30cm of snow... That means I will have rain until mid May... That means I can't go to work on my citadel (dirt is too wet).
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That means @DarthCoin will be online till May. ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฝ
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No citadel building for you!
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Shitcoiners nightmare - Darth stays longer on SN ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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We had so much rain the past week that the basement flooded yesterday. That only happens maybe once every 5 years.
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