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From 2014:
The United States and its European allies now face a choice on Ukraine. They can continue their current policy, which will exacerbate hostilities with Russia and devastate Ukraine in the process -- a scenario in which everyone would come out a loser. Or they can switch gears and work to create a prosperous but neutral Ukraine, one that does not threaten Russia and allows the West to repair its relations with Moscow. With that approach, all sides would win.
https://portside.org/2014-09-02/why-ukraine-crisis-wests-fault-liberal-delusions-provoked-putin
I know he is not but at least they should try.
You must think nobody has tried...
Or, you must think that negotiating with a grizzly bear is on the list of reasonable options.
Nobody has tried
You must have privileged information only privy to those with special access.
I recommend reading or listening to John Mearsheimer.
Here is a lecture from 2015: https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4?si=WP8Hr5rtw-TS6I9I
It’s common sense
You’re getting your news from the wrong sources
He is open to a cease fire
What is Your proposal? Escalation in the 'Neocon/British' style? What about what Pope Francis said to let these people find a solution without always intervening? Being neutral has been one of the key principles of the US long time ago until the UK/ neocons 'activated' their war machine
Okay, that been haçk of a long discussion guys. You all are awesome here but do not escalate this . Stay humble, stack Sats.
Greets
Well, you see. My comment was just a reply to your idea that Putin is open to negotiation. I think its plain to see he is not.
I don't have to have an alternative to put forward the simple truth that Putin doesn't have a strong history of bilateral agreements with the free world. He is a strongman. He gets along best with other strongmen.
War occurs when negotiations aren't possible. War is avoided when they are. Right now there is war.
Putin is open to a ceasefire
Well, to me the history of the Anglo-american war complex speaks a different story (Balkans, Afghanistan, Irak 1+2, Libia etc etc). This clearly is not a peace making force.
Total change of topic.
I think you're correct to a degree.
But Putin... is not open for negotiations on this war.. lets at least be realistic about that.
just so you understand me correctly: i'm not a putin fan. as a libertarian i hate such systems like the plague. however, i have higher expectations of the west than what corrupt proles like biden, scholz, macron and the other scum offer us. For us it is important to destroy the propaganda wall of 'our' side, too to get a more or less neutral perspective.
Agreed. I think the west is on the path to losing its way!!
I think we should destroy the propaganda wall as well!
Putin is open to a ceasefire. NATO is not.
A ceasefire allows Russia to rearm, retool, rest troops, and reengage when it so chooses.
Only a cuck would think that tapping out in a streetfight would be honored by the other party.
This is not a street fight so please stop calling me a cuck otherwise I will reciprocate if you behave like a douche bag
Russia wants the war to end. Their goal is to fortify eastern Ukraine which is Russian speaking and supportive of Putin. After all their candidate was deposed in 2014
The west and Ukraine brought this upon themselves
You must think Putin is open to negotiation...