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2902 sats \ 16 comments \ @Kontext 6 Apr lightning

Hey guys and gals,

I want to offer a couple of simple digital products in a Bitcoin-native manner. LN is obvious for micropayments. I have learned of 2 similar, but somewhat different methods that are available now for doing so: Plebeian Market (https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/plebeian-market-v0-0-1/) by @Chiefmonkey and Magic Webstore (https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/magic-webstore/) by @supertestnet. However, there doesn't seem to be much information/reviews/tutorials out there about either. Have any of you played around with both? What are the pros and cons of each? Do I understand correctly that in either case, the delivery of the product, even if it is digital, has to be fulfilled manually?

PLEBEIAN MARKET60.0%

MAGIC WEBSTORE40.0%

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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @Kontext OP 6 Apr

FYI ya'll I currently went with shopstr.store (which had not been on my radar before) as recommended by @Car and @ez But I will probably test others as well, not to mention keeping an eye out for new options. Currently the features and customization options seem to be very limited in any case. But IMO this (ecommerce+micropayments) is probably one of the most obvious points of penetration for BTC/LN to make it into the larger consciousness in terms of it being a medium of exchange. I mean, Gumroad is a great website with a great UX and customization possibilities. Now imagine that (or something better!) but with LN and micropayments!

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 6 Apr

So thats also the other issue, bitcoiners do not have a storage platform, we had to use sendowl, but that wasn't as seemless either.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @SUPERMAX 6 Apr freebie

I have used both (u should use both plus all other platforms to sell your product tbh). I've found magicwebstore.xyz to be the best; simplest & easiest to use. You can learn about them here on SN. Both need better discovery but I prefer magicwebstore. Can self-host too. • #178135 • #177667

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 6 Apr

Why not the ~AGORA? is just here on SN

24 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 6 Apr

We used magic web store at pleblab to ship nostrdevs course last year, super has since abandon that project, just use cypher.space or shopstr both competed in top builder, and are great projects made by exceptional bitcoiners

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 8 Apr

I’d say Plebian Market and Shopstr are like eBay/Etsy where your products are in a marketplace among items from other sellers, whereas Magic Webstore is more like Shopify where it’s just your stuff. So it all depends on what you want.

I prefer the Magic Webstore. I liked it so much that I actually downloaded the source and started making improvements (e.g. made it sats only) and fixing bugs in what I now call The Bullish Webstore.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Kontext OP 8 Apr

That is cool! Did you upload the modified code anywhere as well? I was also very much bothered by the fact you could only set USD prices in Magic Webstore. Otherwise I probably would have gone with that straight away TBH haha

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 8 Apr

Thanks! I mainly did it for me and no one had expressed any interest until you, so no I didn’t upload the modified code yet since I was just experimenting and learning haha.

But nothing is stopping you from going to https://bullishwebstore.vercel.app/onboard.html and trying it out. I didn’t change much there so you’ll still see references to the Magic Webstore.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Kontext OP 8 Apr

Cheers I'm going to play around with it some time soon and get deeper into the technicals. I'm not a developer or a coder myself so we'll see how it goes haha

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 8 Apr

Sounds good! Feel free to reach out here or on Nostr if you need any help. 🤙

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Kontext OP 11 Apr freebie

FYI I was able to use your shop as a customer and all seemed to work on the front end. I wasn't able to create a store of my own though (perhaps you disabled it on purpose, if not, you might want to check on that, - it didn't redirect to the store backend after adding the store and product details). Ideally I would self-host it anyway though. Just considering between this and reverting to a WooCommerce based solution for a better design and automatic product delivery.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 11 Apr

Thanks for testing. I’ll try to create a test store later. I’m not quite sure I understand all the code fully yet, but the store seems to be constructed with notes of different kinds that exist on Nostr relays. So it’s not really self-hostable unless you plan on running a relay.

Either way, if you want better design and automatic product delivery, I think WooCommerce might be the way.

As for the webstore, it’s not automatic however it’s possible to connect your Nostr account and receive DM notifications when there’s a sale.

https://m.stacker.news/26213

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @ez 6 Apr

Shopstr is an interesting alternative, too: https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/shopstr-announced/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext OP 7 Apr

I can't believe I tagged the wrong @super_testnet My apologies.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 6 Apr

I like pleasant market more for it's variety. That's all.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 6 Apr freebie

Have not bought anything from either of the two but had a look and it seems that we are definitely heading towards Bitcoin mindset and Bitcoin Economy.