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From The Kim Iversen Show
About the guest:
Christina Urso is an independent journalist, currently directing and producing her first documentary film on the FBI's Gov. Whitmer "kidnap plot" called "Kidnap and Kill: an FBI Terror Plot."
That the FBI was responsible for this is old news, but there's a new documentary chronicling the saga.
I never really followed this story but did hear about it. The theory is the FBI convinced these guys to carry out the kidnapping correct?
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Sort of, but not really. More and more it sounds like it was purely the Feds pretending to carry out a kidnapping plot, while these other guys were largely uninvolved.
They hid from the jury that every single "overt act" that the "militia" had done had actually been done by one of the Feds.
Basically, they joined a target shooting group and would get the guys super drunk and riled up about how terrible Whitmer is. Then the feds would talk about wanting to perform a citizens arrest on her. That was the "plot". A bunch of drunk guys agreeing that it would be great if this other group of drunk guys arrested Whitmer.
It sounds like the "militia" didn't even know that they were supposedly on their way to kidnap her. They asked the Fed who was driving them where they were going and he wouldn't tell them.
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There used to be a web site that tracked FBI patsy cases. This was in the years after 911 when they'd "catch" some dumb wannabe terrorist every few months. I need to find that site.
In the years following 911 I started to realize how many soft targets there were and how easy it would be for some rando to really do bad stuff. Then I started thinking... well if it is so easy and supposedly there are so many nuts out there that wanna kill American's because they hate our freedom... why isn't it happening more often? I came to the conclusion that there really aren't that many motivated "terrorists" in the US and the post 911 sleeper cell thing is mostly bullshit.
Yeah, there are some but no where near what we were led to believe. Look at the Baltimore bridge thing. I think that was an accident but it shows how easy it would be to cause major havoc if one wanted to.
So, with all that in mind it makes sense that an org that needs funding would find people that might want to do bad stuff but aren't capable or motivated enough and help them along. Then stop them and gain credit. They may not even view what they are doing like this but its clear to me that is what is going on.
There are many stories of FBI guys trying to recruit young Muslim men in mosques post 911. I'm sure they thought they were doing their jobs but the site I'm thinking about showed how the majority were patsies. Some of these poor guys were mentally handicapped according to their families.
Americans have a really hard time admitting law enforcement are human. That's what this is. Humans doing human things. Humans do bad things. The programming of the masses is hard to break.
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Those are exactly the cases I was thinking about. I hope you can find the site. That would be worthy of its own post, I would think.
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I haven't found it but I did find this article from The Intercept from 2015.
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I remember that one. That was when I first heard about this trend.
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That's pretty wild.
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There are a bunch of stories like this. Many "foiled terrorist plots", followed this same pattern.
It's a lot easier to pretend to prevent a crime than it is to actually prevent one.
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Bingo. And, I can see how law enforcement could justify this as, well this was a bad guy. He wanted to do this stuff.
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Lol, I left a long comment probably covered by this video you linked. When this was going on the guys on No Agenda kept pointing it out. I remember being blown away by it at the time. Now I just expect it. The wife and just watched Richard Jewell and man is it wild.
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The second part of the video wasn't as detailed about the post 9/11 stuff as your comment. It was really still largely about the Whitmer case, but explaining that it wasn't some anomaly for the FBI to behave this way.
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