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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
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31 sats \ 12 replies \ @Undisciplined 17 Apr
You had me at "Should Congress stop funding the war...?"
Of course the answer's "yes". There's no prospect of that territory going back to Ukraine. All "our" meddling has accomplished is getting far more Ukrainians killed and maimed.
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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
You forget one thing - Ukrainians are the ones who don't want to give up their territory.
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14 sats \ 10 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Ok. Let's fight to the last Ukrainian! Good plan
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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
Yes, if choice is between death or slavery, it's wise to choose death.
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21 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Third option is moving to another country
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Exactly
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 18 Apr
Same as giving to a thug on the street everything he wants instead of fighting back.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK fwd 18 Apr
Open your eyes: it's lost.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 18 Apr
It isn't. I don't think you could call a win losing tens of thousand soldiers a year and moving front line for a few km.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Incredible...
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
Ok, you could choose slavery, I prefer to be either free or dead.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
How's life in a binary world?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
It's 01.
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31 sats \ 56 replies \ @oliverweiss 17 Apr
So, to make it clear: Ukraine is the West’s fault. The US is the West, too. The US should say: FU Ukraine.
Beautiful.
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10 sats \ 26 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Neutrality, humanitarian aide would have been proper answers. But London and Neocons (the militart complex that's making shitloads of money now) decided differently. The rest is big propaganda gaslighting
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10 sats \ 25 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
Neutrality in Ukraine-Russia conflict would cost West more in the long run. Giving weapons and ammunition to Ukraine is cheaper than maintain bigger standing army later for future threats from Russia.
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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
The thing has been lost from day one. Di You still believe in the 'Endsieg'??
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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
No, it isn't lost. Russians are very ineffective at warfare, they try to compensate it by just numbers. If military aid to Ukraine would come faster, Russians would probably be beaten already.
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Oh man.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
Russian military tech and tactics is no match compared to the West.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Ukraine has a manpower shortage.
Unless you think NATO should send troops
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
If if if
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21 sats \ 18 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Russia has never invaded the West
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @SwearyDoctor 17 Apr
exactly. Russia has only ever been a threat when it was attacked first. they stood in Paris and Berlin only after they were attacked from there. The same is true about the Baltics, who, let's remember, gleefully joined with the Austrian water color artist in his (originally US-funded, let's not forget) attempt to march east.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
No. Russians have attacked Baltics since Medieval times. Learn history, please!
What are you talking about? Latvia was occupied by Soviet Union before Germany attacked Soviet Union. There were two Latvian Waffen SS divisions, but it has nothing to do with Latvian government and 90% of people there were conscripted (you had "free choice" - either go to the front or concentration camp). But they fought bravely anyway, as Soviets were bigger evil than Nazi Germany. Btw, former soldiers of 15th Latvian Waffen SS division were later recruited as the guards at Nurenberg tribunal.
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0 sats \ 15 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
What's your definition of the "West"? They invaded Poland, Finland and Baltics in 1939 and 1940. They took over East and Central Europe countries after WWII. Etc. And idea about empire from Vladivostok to Lisbon is kinda popular among Russian population (I mean it's not something only underground extremists talk about, you can hear such ideas on national TV).
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0 sats \ 14 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
West is the original NATO members.
New members after 1991 are not Western Europe and USA
New members that were former Warsaw Pact members are not considered West.
Baltic countries are not the West.
Ukraine cannot win because they lack manpower.
USA cannot give blank check to Ukraine
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10 sats \ 13 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
These countries were part of Western European cultural sphere for centuries, before Warsaw Pact come into existence. Riga, for example, was one of the main cities of Hanseatic League in Medieval Europe, Poland-Lithuania saved Europe from takeover by Ottomans, etc.
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0 sats \ 12 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Anything east of the iron curtain is not Western Europe
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Not fuck you Ukraine 🇺🇦
The policy should a neutral Ukraine which Russia will accept
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0 sats \ 27 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
USA and other NATO nations created an untenable Ukraine by dangling EU and NATO membership. They did this knowing this would anger and provoke Russia.
Mearsheimer who is an expert on Russia and Soviet Union history is demanding the West stay out of Ukraine and that Ukraine should be a neutral nation like Switzerland.
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0 sats \ 24 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
This will not work, Russia will consider neutrality as a weakness and will try to take over. This happened to Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia before WWII.
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21 sats \ 23 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Russia has invaded Ukraine because it is not neutral. Mearsheimer warned everyone in 2015.
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0 sats \ 22 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
No, it invaded because their backed corrupt politicians lost their power.
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18 sats \ 21 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Color revolution or coup
USA and Europe supported the coup
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0 sats \ 20 replies \ @kristapsk fwd 17 Apr
It was revolution, because it had popular support. Coup is when small group of people take over without popular support, like bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917.
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21 sats \ 16 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
A revolution that was provoked by EU and USA
Zelensky has not been topped because of aid from USA. Once money stops flowing he will be deposed via coup or revolution.
Many people are leaving Ukraine. Not a revolution but abandonment. Men are leaving because they don’t want to fight or die.
Without men Ukraine will lose regardless of money and military aid from USA
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
What was the reason for revolution?
EU and NATO membership
Russia will never accept Ukraine nation backed by western great powers
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss 17 Apr
Here you see “propaganda” in action, @TomK!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Wrong again @oliverweiss
You clearly have no knowledge about the history of NATO and Russia and Ukraine
Mearsheimer is an expert on the former Soviet Union. His YouTube lecture from 2015 has 30 million views
His view is not propaganda. He opposed NATO enlargement in the 1990s and today
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @TomK fwd 17 Apr
Thanks for the rewards. It's a complex conflict and it's sad to see how many people (again) fell for our propaganda department
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss 17 Apr
Did I fall for something? Didn’t notice. I made a summary of @Bell_curve’s post. Is there something wrong with this summary?
And, please, don’t at me with the propaganda nonsense. It’s ridiculous.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Your summary is wrong
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr
Especially here on SN
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