No, I must thank you because what I can only listen now is the one side of the coin from everyone. All have been trying to say that there was nothing wrong with Samurai, but you came out and made the other side visible.

Coinsreporter

Thanks -- glad this mostly made sense (since it was basically a ramble I thought about as I was walking the dog). 

StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears

culture

The government doesn't always lie; that's the danger.

> It's their conclusion and the actions that spring from them that's where the dishonestly lies.

This is the perfect conclusion that we should get out of all the fuss against government. TBH, I am the same person who does not trust government to be right with its actions but the facts are facts and we should consider them as well. 

We need to establish a clear rule if we are against the government or its actions.