While I don't fully agree with the Calvinist doctrine of depravity, the idea that we're imperfect and trend towards immorality doesn't seem far fetched to be. Seems evidenced by *motions to everything*... And idk how that's fixed from within on our own. 

frostdragon

hhhmm...
There are optimist and pessimists. 
Just another day in the world lol

Satosora

I can still remember the first time someone told me that they believed in the Calvinist doctrine of “the depravity of man.” It shocked me. To complain about human behavior I very well understood; there’s plenty of bad behavior in the world. But to flatly call the human species depraved… hopelessly unredeemable… that was, and remains, obscene to me.

FiresidePhilosophy

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I can still remember the first time someone told me that they believed in the Calvinist doctrine of “the depravity of man.” It shocked me. To complain about human behavior I very well understood; there’s plenty of bad behavior in the world. But to flatly call the human species depraved… hopelessly unredeemable… that was, and remains, obscene to me.