Hey guys, I'm interested to know if any of you use one of these mini miners. Does it mine as part of a pool? Is it fun or educational and does it actually get any sats!? π Thanks. π
pull down to refresh
140 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 11 May
I have one but I only had it running briefly. I can't find a good spot for it. I know it's small, but my wife is sensitive about weird electronic devices around the house.
reply
55 sats \ 5 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 11 May
Please suggest a good device. So I can earn good sats if possible.
reply
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 11 May
I'm the wrong guy to ask. I know nothing about mining. If you use SN search I'm sure you will find stackers who can provide great information.
reply
10 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 11 May
deleted by author
reply
55 sats \ 2 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 11 May
Oh my bad! I should have known about it.
reply
10 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 11 May
No big deal. I think you probably need a Bitmain s19 for like $700-800, but that depends on electric costs where you live.
reply
55 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 11 May
Thanks you so much. For your valuable response
reply
60 sats \ 8 replies \ @nullama 11 May
Any miner in theory can mine solo or in a pool.
It's a relatively small ASIC, kinda like those USB miners.
The cost of it is probably more than what you can ever mine with it though, but it's cheap if you just want to learn about mining.
reply
0 sats \ 7 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
ok thanks that sounds ok actually. I'm interested mainly to learn about mining and contribute something to the network.
reply
20 sats \ 6 replies \ @nullama 11 May
Some other small/cheap/silent miners you might be interested in:
-
Apollo II
-
Compac A1
-
Nano 3
reply
0 sats \ 4 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 11 May
I donβt think Iβd call Apollo II cheap π
reply
10 sats \ 3 replies \ @nikotsla 11 May
Nano 3 for me has the best price/performance relation.
reply
15 sats \ 2 replies \ @nullama 11 May
The main problem with that one is that it is closed sourced (like the Apollo II), and it is locked to one pool only
reply
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nikotsla 11 May
Indeed, if I have to buy one, I will go with bitaxe for sure. It's a way to send signals that align with me, even in a capital expensive area like mining.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 11 May
Yea I really wish the Apollo software was open source. Alas
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
Great Iβll check them out thanks.
reply
140 sats \ 3 replies \ @_vnprc 11 May
BitAxe is great! It's fully open source hardware and software. Two guys from my local BitDevs meetup made it happen. Skot9000 started the project and designed the hardware. Johnny9 backwards engineered the firmware.
It's super easy to set up. You plug it in and connect to the wifi network displayed on the screen. Configure it with your wifi credentials and reboot the bitaxe. Open a browser on your local network and browse to the IP displayed on the screen. Configure your mining pool credentials, save. You might need to reboot it again. Congrats! You are hashing.
The thing that sets this project apart from similar efforts is the hash efficiency. A nerdminer does CPU mining on an ESP32. BitAxe uses an individual ASIC chip from an S19, I think. So you are getting industrial strength hash efficiency in an adorable desk toy format. It's like a cool knick knack that puts out 500 GH/s. I put mine on a shelf with a bunch of bitcoin books and a laptop full node. When it is quiet I can hear it 'breathe' as the fan alternates speeds to maintain target temp on the chip.
In general, mining profitability will almost always be lower than just buying BTC on the spot market. This starts to change if you operate at a very large scale or have access to free or subsidized hardware or electricity. BitAxe is at the extreme end of unprofitability. Due to the high relative cost of the hardware you might have to mine continuously for a century to break even.
Skot is working on a hex board that will fit 6 ASIC chips. It will definitely help with cost efficiency. If you are interested in this stuff definitely check out the Open Source Miners United initiative.
reply
0 sats \ 2 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
Thanks so much for the info. π
reply
10 sats \ 1 reply \ @_vnprc 11 May
NP! I hope you get a bitaxe and it turns into a fulfilling hobby...or maybe more than a hobby. ;-)
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
I like the open source ethos and it looks cool too so Iβm definitely tempted!
reply
120 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 11 May
Cons:
-not economical
Pros:
-open source hardware/firmware movement
-takes up minimal space
-quieter than big asics
They're mainly an educational tool but there's a bigger movement going on.
reply
20 sats \ 1 reply \ @nikotsla 11 May
It's for education and a little of fun mostly.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
Thanks.
reply
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @mf 11 May
Aside from participatting in the lottery, by contributting hash power to the network you are literally increasing the bitcoin network security and the valur of btc by consequence. It's always a net positive.
reply
10 sats \ 2 replies \ @kingzing131 11 May
It only earn like 32sats per day, so the ROI is non existent. Solo mining is the way to go, but then the chances to win a block is astrologically low.
Personally I started off solomining but changed to pool mining later on. Helps me to zap some SATs without needing to move SATs around from onchain
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 11 May
That's really helpful info. Thanks.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @allmightyrandom 11 May freebie
This is really low. And you can withdraw from pool at any time with lightning?
I started the other way around.
But stopped solomining some time ago. If your hashrate is constant you can sell it to plebs on a daily basis.
They probably pay you more. Or you can make some special deals like 1-10% of blockreward go to you if a block has been found.
What if your Bitaxe really finds a block while mining for a pool that pays you 32sat a day and even keeps 2% of it?
It is not impossible.
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 11 May
Price wise Avalon Nano 3 seems better option. https://mineshop.eu/avalon-nano-3/
reply
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @030e0dca83 11 May
Pros: cheap, you can mine 3.25 Bitcoin, small
Cons: expensive in terms of Bitcoin, most likely you won't mine 3.25 Bitcoin, unavailable in my country
reply
10 sats \ 2 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 11 May
I have one mining in a pool. It contributes around 400 GH/s on average. So it doesnβt earn many says, but it does also use very small amounts of power compared to other miners.
reply
100 sats \ 1 reply \ @nullama 11 May
That's similar to what you can get with an USB miner, like the Compac F.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 11 May
Oh really? Good to know!
reply
21 sats \ 0 replies \ @5c3cfa2350 5 Nov freebie
It's mind blowing miner
reply
10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ge 11 May
Been wanting to get one to have I think it looks dope and your contributing even if it's small it's something been really thinking of getting one just to have thanks for this post
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 11 May
Good question. I will also learn from comments. This post will help me to know some good stuff.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 11 May
If you want it for learning purpose, yes you can. But if you think you can ean from it, it's a no.
That's what my friend said to me while I was discussing with him about miners.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 11 May
Once all the public miners go bust or become cucked it will be the bitaxes that will save the day
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ncryppt 11 May
makes for a fun toy
reply
0 sats \ 4 replies \ @0xIlmari 11 May
I think it's way too expensive. The BM1366 chip costs like $15, so I don't understand why a whole unit costs like 10x that.
reply
0 sats \ 3 replies \ @nullama 11 May
There are a lot of other components, plus making the whole thing, plus shipping, etc.
It's the same with any other electronic device. Maybe you are comparing this to PC parts, but that's different as they are all standard and you can just swap components. Here, and with other electronics in general, you have to design the whole board.
reply
0 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xIlmari 11 May
Actually, I input the BOM file from their GitHub to DigiKey and it adds up to $42 for all components without the ASIC. PCBs are cheap and machines solder for you. Even if you splurge on a Noctua fan, the BOM will come out to maybe $70. You don't have to design anything because all the manufacturing files are open source.
reply
20 sats \ 0 replies \ @freetx 11 May
As a point of reference, for one of the companies I consult for, they do their own custom hardware for industrial automation.
The BOM of that board is about $70. The landed price in the US (after PCB manufacture, Assembly, Shipping, and Import Fees) is $130. These are done in quantities of 100-200 per run....if they do a "prototyping run" of 10 boards, the cost comes in at about $240 per board.
I'd be willing to bet its very difficult to do a single board for less than say $250 once every thing is added up.
reply
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 11 May freebie
Usually the original designer makes them and sells them to resellers. Who knows for how much. That's a hidden cost.
But, as it is open hardware, you can of course just build it yourself for cheaper.