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Obama ordered the killing of American children by drone strike.
Trump covered up payments to a hooker.
One of them is charged for their crimes. Yes, this is only happening because it's Trump. All other presidents get away with their many crimes and the corporate press runs cover for them.
They all get away with military stuff. That's given, right. Obama took it to another level. But my question is an exercise in imagining they did the same.
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You're right.
I'd say Biden is the easier comparison.
- Both Biden and Trump did a quid-pro-quo with Ukraine: Trump got impeached over it and nothing happened to Biden.
- Both Biden and Trump had federal documents in their personal possession: Trump's home was raided over it and nothing happened to Biden.
On and on it goes
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This is interesting perspective. You don't see the difference in respondant behavior resulting in different treatment in the documents cases?
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I think the differences that people point out can be used in both directions and only really serve to muddy the waters. All prior presidents have taken documents with them and they've all refused to turn over certain documents when ordered to do so. It turns into a negotiation with the Federal records officers.
The point is that in case after case Trump is treated differently by the regime than all seemingly similar prior cases.
On any specific case, reasonable arguments can be made for why it's different this time, but I think there's a clear signal that can be read through all the noise: most presidents are given as much benefit of the doubt as possible, while Trump is given the least.
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Yeah, but you have to agree he did the most and of the kind of stuff the masters don't like. I get why he is popular, but that is also why he won't make it.
They are two sides of the same coin flipped by the same hand.
Don't be fooled.
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I'm not at all convinced that Trump has done more shady stuff than any of the others.
I'm not saying he didn't, but I don't know how we're supposed to assess this when the asymmetry of treatment is so great.
Do you really think Trump has done more illegal stuff than the Clintons? That would surprise me if it were true.
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Hell no. Bill Clinton is the devil! But I don't let that push me to another devil. What you don't seem to get is they are on the same team. They want you having this fight instead of us getting together and dealing with them all.
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If you think I'm on Trump's team, you are very mistaken. I'd love to see him tried and executed for war crimes.
However, if I'm asked to weigh-in on whether he gets treated the same as other past presidents, I'm not going to pretend that he does. The double standard is clear as day.
Hillary is worse than Bill. I think
They are both corrupt.
Biden will have his day in court.
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Biden was senator from Delaware, banking and business incorporation capital of the U.S. Don't be foolish in thinking he will caught with anything.
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He will not. Biden was deemed not mentally competent to stand trial, when they attempted to hold him accountable.
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You didn't read that indictment yourself, did you?
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Enlighten me.
I'm aware that I overstated the claim, but I think it's correct in essence.
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No need for me to call BS when you call it on yourself.
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I couldn't remember the exact phrasing that was used, but it was in the direction of mental infirmity.
They are all corrupt. The system requires it. Don't play this game of us vs. them. It is what they want!
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Trump is certainly no moral saint.
The issue here is selective enforcement. There are many instances of Trump being held accountable for things that Democrats are known to have done as well.
There are rulers and there are ruled. The rulers have made it clear that Trump is not welcome in their club.