Features
- reusable, non-expiring payment requests
- contact list (Android for now, iOS soon)
- attach messages to payments
This marks a new step forward in Lightning UX. No need to generate a new QR code for every payment. No need for payer/receiver to interact.
Phoenix Android (soon iOS) also supports contacts. Send money with a click, and associate payments to your known contacts.
I feel like Bolt12 on Phoenix could almost replace BTC Payserver. Just a static QR code for payment then then some kind of REST request to Phoenix if it has been payed?
refunds? accounting?
If the app can call a webhook on payment, then you could do that in some other system.
Right, like BTCPay :) (or, Zaprite)
Do BTCPayServer or Zaprite allow your lightning keys to live on your phone? I'm not too familiar with either. That's the main advantage here I guess.
That's a goal with the BTCPay app project https://github.com/btcpayserver/app
There's been some discussion of a BOLT 12 protocol modification to allow for Zaprite to integrate with merchant LN wallets.
There's of course all the challenges of mobile including availability to sign to receive money. Async payments protocol helps but whether applicable to a merchant depends on the volume and type of merchant.
You're right that a static QR code and a webhook into payment history is not quite there to be a fully fledged payment system. That's why I said "could almost" - because it can already do a lot, enough for some usecases, of course not everything.
So cool, from their GitHub, I was definitely not expecting BOLT12 support so soon. Gonna have to try it ASAP.
I suppose now we can head to https://twelve.cash, create a lightning address and call it a day.
ive yet to have twelve.cash successfully receive sats, have you? ive tried with phoenix and with ride the lightning setting up the offer, but i never can pull an invoice when i put in the address
Sadly I just tried it with Phoenix and it didn't work. 🥲
At the moment only Zeus supports bolt12 and bip353
Phoenix is solid! And in some ways it's good that it's not in the US AppStore, because it pushes people to :
Are we all going back to using Phoenix in the US?
We never left. It’s nonsensical to stop using Phoenix because of a simple removal from an App Store. That’s the extent of their change… Phoenix never stopped working. This isn’t a follow the mob group of people, I hope. If it works (allows you to make tx) then it works. Do you not them
Great points and well stated
Freedom-oriented people using walled garden devices/OS aren't serious
Wow, @ACINQ just delivers. Need to test that out soon.
Awesome! Can't wait to add this to my electrum server to receive tips.
test bolt12 succefully.
Very interesting
Very interesting
Lets go , more innovation, simple life
Bullish! I saw Zeus's announcement recently as well. Exciting stuff!
Good news!
Nice upgrade.