I don't claim to understand what happened but this doesn't look good at all.
They kept the rooftop open, watched the shooter, kept Trump on the stage, and didn’t do a damn thing until after he had been shot. And we’re supposed to believe it was an innocent oopsie?
To be clear, when I post a link to an article it is not an endorsement. The reason I posted it was because I think it is concerning that the reports are making articles like this harder to debunk.
People that really believe in the police and military like most Trump supporters do will find it hard to believe that the Secret Service just suck this bad right now. I mean the more I hear about this event the worse it looks.
Frankly, I'm not super concerned about Trump or Biden. I am more concerned about how the empire crumbles and the consequences.
Sad this has to be said.
I don't think this has been corroborated. There are videos of a CS looking out to that side (which they were doing the whole time), but after shots are fired he repositions as if he wasn't looking at/couldn't see the target beforehand. The explanation I've heard for this is that USSS CSs are tasked with 3rd tier threats >300 yards away.
Also quoting their own article for the “source familiar with Trump’s security detail” isn't very compelling. The DISGRACED act is evidence of intent though so if they had better evidence of support denials it'd be pretty damning even to a moderate. Watching RFK Jr. get denied USSS detail for nearly year, after numerous real threats and his obvious familial history, is enough evidence for me that the administration is willing to politically assign protection though. That on top of all the primary rigging and age gaslighting gives a reasonably clear sketch of the administration's character imo which is consistent with this article's claim.
I take no joy or excitement in thinking maybe this was intentional incompetence or intentional. I don't want that to be true but it could be true. But I'm not the average person. My guess is that most Trump supporters are either thinking it was intentional or considering that as likely.
Its not good at all.
Most of what I see on twitter from the new right implies if not hypothesizes intent. Most of what I see from the new left are attempts to excommunicate the shooter from the party (as if that matters), avoid party blame, and at best bite their tongue through Trump's status come up. Most of what I see from moderates is disgust at the incompetence.
All things considered, it feels like intentional incompetence to me but hopefully we eventually get evidence to suggest otherwise.
That's pretty much what I see as well.
I'm afraid for what happens regardless. While this isn't reported as related, blocks from the RNC a homeless man was shot and killed by police crossing the street. Emotions are heightened and they tend to be very leaky.
Anyone in law enforcement is gonna be on edge now. Even far away from these politicians.
RFK finally received Secret Service protection yesterday.
They must think we are blind and dumb. Or they don’t care. I would probably vote for brazen, a prominent trait for the Biden Administration
If you were RFK would you want SS protection at this point?
Good point
Its a mess.
Not sure if it was malice or incompetence but clearly they didn’t send the A team to cover Trump.
Just watched a former Navy Seal share his thoughts and he confirmed a couple things I thought the other day.
He was pretty brutal in his criticism. I think many of us that have had at least a little bit of training with firearms could see many of the flaws but I suspect we will start hearing from more and more actual experts in security.
Before this interview I didn't realize that Seals get assigned to protection detachments in different situations. I have a friend that was a Marine sniper. I'm curious what his thoughts are on all this. I suspect I know.
I have seen a couple expert interviews as well. They all seem to come to the same conclusions this guy did.
The excuse they gave as to why there was no one on that roof is absolutely laughable.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/secret-service-boss-explains-why-no-one-was-stationed-on-roof-where-gunman-shot-at-trump?topStoryPosition=5
Yeah, that's BS.
Plus denying the request for more agents
best case scenario is gross negligence
I do find it interesting that many of these stories are coming from the corporate press sources. I expect the head of the SS to resign or be fired within a week at least.
Three snipers were stationed inside building used in Trump assassination attempt
No one saw the shooter climb up a ladder and onto the roof with a gentle slope?
That part is still a mystery to me
Apparently law enforcement saw him and radioed it in. They were trying to get on the roof when he was killed.
No excuse for these failures. Zero.
Secret Service identified rooftop security risk before Trump rally shooting
I can’t believe I what I am going to say
The House and Senate need to hire outside investigators
DOJ FBI SS DHS can’t be objective because they have too much on the line
Why can't you believe it? Seems obvious to me.
It is obvious with a caveat: outside or special investigators have been controversial lately but controversy is no reason for shirking responsibility
The executive branch can’t investigate itself with integrity and credibility
Even if they do this, only a fool would trust the government investigating itself. That's where I land.
Im pretty sure Trumps and Bidens security details are different. Lol
For sure. What's your point?
What l mean is that biden isnt running trumps security detail.
He probably had no input whatsoever in that shooting fiasco.
To be clear. Biden isn't over his security detail team either. But he is over the head of the Secret Service. I think you may be reading to much into the title.
I'm not saying I agree with the article btw. I just find it interesting.
Lol, no question. The question is what is Biden doing?
Joe isn’t running anything lately