Thank you for all the information Sr. I'm not going to use Muun that way but it's always constructive to know what's possible :)

didiplaywell

I don't think this convoluted Kraken -> Muun -> hardware wallet strategy is going to be worth it in the long run. That's because it's exploiting both:

lightning

How does Muun even make money?

snufon

[This Muun blog post](https://blog.muun.com/a-closer-look-at-submarine-swaps-in-the-lightning-network/) was super informative, as well as [this Phoenix blog post](https://acinq.co/blog/phoenix-splicing-update).

I don't think this convoluted Kraken -> Muun -> hardware wallet strategy is going to be worth it in the long run. That's because it's exploiting both: 
- the fact that Kraken is "too nice" with users who withdraw with Lightning (they should have a small % L2 fee like everyone does). Especially considering they're not nice at all with users who withdraw on L1, the contrast is too strange
- the fact that Muun is "too nice" with users like me who literally make them lose money


