Anyone hear Trump say “let’s be nice to them at least until the election is over”?
This speech is an absolute insult to the bitcoin community. Mentioning bitcoin and crypto in the same sentence was such an easy to not do, and it really feels like the people cheering at the conference were already MAGA. Doesn’t seem like it would have been that hard to include some legitimate talking points.
The single upside is supporting the right to self custody, and of course the slight discount.
I'll just say this. If I were a statist bitcoiner. I would be voting for Trump.
I think bitcoiners need to stop pretending we are going to convince the masses into being weird analytical libertarians and anarchists. That isn't happening. Not ever. Our brains work differently.
What is happening right now in bitcoin at this conference is just the next step in bitcoin ascendance. I think many think getting governments to be our friends is the goal. It isn't. Obsoleting them and their fiat is the destination. This phase is just a bus stop we have to make.
The game theory will play out. If Trump wins and then is replaced in 4 years we could see any promises he keeps reversed. This will be a lesson for many. We have a long way to go as a species. We that get it need to start acting like leaders, not followers, or complainers.
How many people are acting like leaders or sovereign individuals? 10 million?
Pffft. I have no idea but no way it is that large of a number. Honestly, to me it doesn't matter.
What matters is, am I becoming more of what I should be.
We've got a regular Albert Jay Nock on our hands. I love it.
Just being honest.
but it's so much easier to change others than yourself lol
lol. Hows that going for ya.
One percent success rate!
Glass is one percent full
Very weak speech. Disappointing.
What were you expecting lol. You've heard him speak before right?
Honestly its pretty much what I expected. The fact that this is the front running candidate says more about the state of the US than it does about him or the bitcoin community.
Very true. It just reinforces for me that we are on our own. It's nuts to think these clowns are going to help. That being said, even by his standards, wasn't he particularly cringe today?
Not really. Maybe I don't pay enough attention. He's always cringe to me. But, he's funnier than most of these clowns.
I cringe at ANY politician. My wife can't watch a speech with me. Any time these guys act like I need them... I want to turn my back.
I thought he would stick to the talking points rather than rambling about things no one cared about but Trump can't not ramble.
So much rambling. The actual substance was about 3 to 5 minutes total tops. The rest was babbling.
You're being kind.
What he said ^^^
I really didn't expect more from him either, if I saw his talk at the conference it was to laugh, and the guy almost got it.
The future belongs to those who show up
Honestly, like many other speeches… he is dumb.
It was a typical politician pandering for votes speech. He didn't offer any new L2 solutions. It was ho-hum....
However, you are forgetting how this is viewed by Average Joe.
This is what average joe sees:
https://m.stacker.news/42003
Good perspective
I wasn't expecting L2 solutions like lightning, cashu, ecash, fedimint, liquid and boltz swaps
@frostdragon, Its been a while. As I said earlier, he is just trying to buy your votes with empty promises. He didnt prepare much for this speech, I just felt he hit some points that were starred for him.
I should have set up a drinking game. Do a shot every time he says crypto.
Do a shot every time he said China
He just took over the bitcoin conference and made it a MAGA rally.
He seems surprised by not getting the normal reaction he does.
Loved the silence after mentioning stablecoins
Yep. That was funny.
Dude doesn't understand bitcoin. I mean, he's not really pretending he does. He has people around him that do to an extent. But many are pro crypto and pro stable coin.
Best part of his speech was to commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht
Definitely. If he really does it I'll give him credit. If he changes his mind for some contrived reason, I won't be shocked.
Dave Smith
That's who we need to drain the swamp.
maybe in the future
My hot take on the price.
Price dropped (now recovered) largely due to the fact most bitcoiners were busy watching his "speech" and not trading.
This day was significant regardless of what you think of Trump. Even those of you that hate him probably watched. Those that aren't gonna vote like myself probably watched it. Its like a car crash. You can't look away. We all hope Ross is freed. We all hope bitcoin devs are not prosecuted. The stronger bitcoiners are. The harder we are to fool. The more wealth we have. The harder these clowns will pander to us.
Don't be a political slut. Have some self respect. Vote or don't. But don't be a fool. He's not one of us. But also, today was a big deal. There will be much bigger days but this was historic.
ps: We see many statist showing their colors. That's fine. We aren't the majority. Most people are statists. Don't be surprised by this.
Who is Jordi and why did he get called to exit?
Saying we know inflation better than anyone and then trying to blame all inflation on Biden is such a great bit
To the new Prez, I would say. STFU, don't stand in a way, that's all we need from ya, do not interfere. :-)
exactly
and free Ross
He should have talked more about the philosophical point of Bitcoin, but of course this perhaps did not interest him so much.
You don't convince me Trump, I really expected more from you and your speech.
With all those politicians there, the only thing anyone should have talked about is eliminating the BSA and all other AML/KYC laws. All the talk about supporting bitcoin and innovation is meaningless as long as these horrible laws are on the books. As far as I know nobody brought this up.
MAGAs are bitcoiners. Bitcoiners are not MAGAs. Bitcoin is great already. Bitcoin doesn't need MAGAs, instead, MAGAs need bitcoin.
Thanks for the summary
The MAGA's are also bitcoiners. They are at liberty to support Trump with bitcoin. But what they can't do is control Bitcoin or other bitcoiners.
Yes, it sounded like an insult. But let's pardon the noob in Trump! At least he talks about Bitcoin.
Waa the price drop due to 'Trump Saying Crypto, crypto, digital assets and like that? If that's the case, it should not rise before. We already knew that Trump is a noob Bitcoiner and he needs to learn a lot. May be next 5 years will make him a pro and then he will refrain from these anti-bitcoin words
Let's not forget the Biden executive order to tax miners with a 30 percent electricity excise tax
#172814
I know voters have short memories. I would hope that SN users don't have short memories but I'm also realistic
Recently, our state's income has decreased after we introduced a tax on air. You began to breathe less - this is outrageous!
That was pretty damn difficult to watch. Just rambling. I understand he wasn't going to be getting technical and detailed... But crypto crypto crypto, and all sort of nonsense unrelated at all to the conference.
What's the hell is going with Trump
I should have set up a drinking game
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