901 sats \ 9 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug \ parent \ on: Female Boxer Quits Olympic Match After Biological Male Beats Her In 46 Seconds news
Important to note that, she was born female identity with female genitalia (uterus, vagina) and this is not a case of a male to female transition. She looked like a normal female as a child, and that is not a woke transitioning country. Reportedly, it was only later in her life it was discovered she had underlying XY chromosomes with a genetic disorder.
Whether she should be allowed to compete or not, I can have some empathy for someone who grew up without a penis, believing they are female their whole life, wanting to pursue their passion.
To me this is a very shitty gray area, but she should not be lumped in with the born-male athletes who later transition and beat up on women.
Thanks for providing this information. You're right. It does change the picture. The news article should have made that clear.
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I actually found it strange why the whole social media is about the woman, but barely anything about the other party. I mean, why didn't he/she speak up?
And it's so hard to verify things online with so little evidence, and people are already so busy judging / taking sides instead of verifying.
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This person was previously suspended from competition for testing positive for too much testosterone
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Probably from over-supplementation, which would be just cause to ban IMO.
Details are scant as to her actual medical issues, but reportedly she has Swyer syndrome, born with female genitalia and no cock, no balls. No balls means you would need exogenous testosterone administered, which seems to have gone overboard in her case, possibly for athletic advantage. These patients are quite rare but normally you would expect them to have low levels of all reproductive hormones, both estrogen and testosterone as they have faulty non-functional gonads.
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The International Boxing Association disqualified her. The IOC lost their minds.
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Agree it doesn’t seem right if she was disqualified from prior international competition for excessively high T levels.
But to me the discourse is just a little unfortunate and lacking nuance. People are saying she should be disqualified because she’s obviously a man. In actuality she’s genotype male but born phenotype of a female- without exogenous testosterone she would not have developed her masculine traits and would have remained phenotypically female her whole life. The real issues is she’s roided out to the gills.
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No. The testoserone tests just showed elevated levels of endogenous hormone. No evidence of supplementation. In many sports, the absolute level of Testosterone is enough to rule if someone is allowed to compete as a woman. The rules vary between the Int. Boxing Assoc. And the IOC. For detection of doping, other measures are used such as hormonal ratios (epitestosterone/testosterone) as well as tests revealing synthetic variants. There is no evidence of doping in this case. She would have been banned from all sports for next few years already otherwise.
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