Starting with iOS 18.1, developers will be able to offer NFC contactless transactions using the Secure Element from within their own apps on iPhone, separate from Apple Pay and Apple Wallet. Using the new NFC and SE (Secure Element) APIs, developers will be able to offer in-app contactless transactions for in-store payments, car keys, closed-loop transit, corporate badges, student IDs, home keys, hotel keys, merchant loyalty and rewards cards, and event tickets, with government IDs to be supported in the future.
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131 sats \ 1 reply \ @Zk2u 18 Aug
YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING TO USE THIS FOR YEARS LFGGGGGG
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @DrStacker OP 18 Aug
me too!
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131 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 18 Aug
I have very mixed feelings about this as a user. On the one hand this will open up opportunities and use cases for me that I didn’t have before. But on the other hand I see this leading to a fragmented user experience where I have to open an app for everything instead of having things seamlessly integrate with the Wallet app.
I hope this doesn’t lead to big banks pulling support for the Wallet app and instead make users use their terrible mobile apps for contactless payments.
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5 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bazoobtc 18 Aug
Can’t wait to see what the ux will look like when it launches. Any possibility of interfacing with lightning app?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @tomlaies 18 Aug
If haven't overseen anything: yes. Storing keys in the secure element and giving out signatures via NFC should be possible with this. Every iPhone would basically be a cold wallet with this
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 18 Aug
really? So basically... the secure element could hold the keys with this update?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bazoobtc 18 Aug
Now, that would be awesome….
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121 sats \ 0 replies \ @Zk2u 18 Aug
Secure enclaves don’t support secp256k1 so this won’t be possible unfortunately
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @BlokchainB 18 Aug
This maybe the reason I will remain an Apple cuck. Can’t deny good hardware with great software especially if bitcoin developers keep working on this tech stack
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47 sats \ 3 replies \ @79c9095526 18 Aug
I struggle with this myself. I want to go 100% grapheneos because I'm fairly sure apple is hoovering up a bunch of my phone usage data, but ios and iphone hardware is pretty hard to wean off of.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @BlokchainB 18 Aug
Yeah maybe my next phone I should buy both an iPhone and a graphene phone. Maybe might be a big waste of sats but I like tech and phones. Plus I can see if it’s really worth switching.
But my true canary in the coal mine is when bitcoin applications stop showing up on the App Store or Damus and Zeus stop developing IOS clients.
You know Apple is a public company just a few trillion dollars and we can buy them and implement the policies we want!!
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1024 sats \ 1 reply \ @79c9095526 18 Aug
Yeah, I have both, but I'll be honest its quite challenging to really 'try' the graphene phone outside of special circumstances when I can fall back to the iphone for daily use. Perhaps its because I've used an iPhone for a decade, but its so much more intuitive to me. Also I like the consistency between apps and interfaces.
I also use google voice (voip numbers) for work/business/throwaway purposes and it feels less intrusive on an iphone than on android. Google accounts logged into graphene/android seem like "system level accounts" vs. on an iphone if that makes sense.
Ultimately, I like knowing the graphene phone exists and having one to play around with, but similar to you, I'm not sure I'll ever transition fully until I'm "forced to". Perhaps apple's implementation of AI features will be what pushes me over the edge to go all in on graphene. Their on device scanning is what scared me into buying a pixel and flashing graphene in the first place, but then they backed away from it...
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 19 Aug
Yeah this is what I fear. In the early days (Samsung galaxy 4 or 5 I’m talking ) Android was so buggy. My keyboard was randomly disappear and I would have to restart the keyboard app. But yeah I’m like you. Once apple goes a step too far then I’m done foreal!
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