America Divided on the Legacy of Slavery
747 sats \ 29 comments \ @Coinsreporter 25 Aug charts_and_numbers

America Divided on the Legacy of Slavery

Divides persist between many Black and white Americans’ views on the ongoing impacts of slavery in the United States. According to a poll by YouGov conducted in 2023, 52 percent of U.S. respondents believe that the legacy of slavery still influences society today either a fair amount or a great deal.
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Most Americans believe the legacy of slavery in the U.S. still influences society

To what extent do you believe that the legacy of slavery in the U.S. still influences society today?
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194 sats \ 16 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
It would be preposterous to think it has no influence on society, but it’s a vaguely worded prompt that people will interpret very differently.
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71 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter OP 25 Aug
You mean the influence still exists but the narratives have changed?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
People still talk about reparations which is extortion
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20 sats \ 4 replies \ @sangekrypto 25 Aug
How is it possible that in developed countries there is still slavery, perhaps there is the influence of customs from our ancestors.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
That's more what I mean. There is still slavery in America, but that's not what anyone is thinking of when asked about this.
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35 sats \ 2 replies \ @sangekrypto 25 Aug
Maybe only ordinary people still feel the existence of slavery, and only a certain part, because of this custom.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
Slavery in modern day America is very much out-of-sight out-of-mind.
The two forms that come to mind are prison labor and sex slavery. I don't know the extent of the later, but it's not zero and there are people who claim it's quite high.
Prisoners are often allowed to work, but sometimes they are forced to. In some cases, you could probably argue that this is not unjust, but for those incarcerated for victimless crimes it's indistinguishable from slavery.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @sangekrypto 25 Aug
In my opinion, if there are crimes that are imprisoned but there are no victims, it might not be fair if there are acts of coercion and sexual slavery in prison, this is harassment, everyone will not accept being treated like that.
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100 sats \ 8 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
It has zero influence on current society because so much has changed since 1865.
It serves as an anchor for grievance and identity politics.
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160 sats \ 7 replies \ @TNStacker 25 Aug
Like @Undisciplined said, preposterous.
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42 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
The thing is, even if all it did is serve "as an anchor for grievance and identity politics" that's still an influence on our society.
An obvious, if benign, influence is the demography of the country. I don't know that there's any moral significance to there being far more black people in the Old South, but it is to some extent a legacy of slavery.
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36 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
A pernicious influence
Regarding demography and geography, what about the great black migration after 1945? Many blacks left the south and moved north and west
How many cities have MLK Blvd or street? Is that a legacy of slavery?
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132 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
Obviously, black people have moved all over the country. I don't even see what that has to do with anything. The rural deep south has lots of black people, in part because that's where their ancestors were brought as slaves.
Are MLK Blvd's a legacy of slavery? Maybe. That's the sort of thing I meant when I said the prompt is overly vague.
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40 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)
One effect of the Great Migration was that blacks moved away from rural to urban areas including the South. Where do most blacks in Alabama live? Cities (not rural) such as Birmingham
Urban life is not a legacy of slavery
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Aug
That's all well and good, but county slave population 200 years ago has predictive power on black population in a county today. The only interpretation of that (that makes sense) is legacy of slavery.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
You are exhibit A! I rest my case
I forgot about the race card.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 26 Aug
The racist says what?
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55 sats \ 7 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 25 Aug
This has been going on forever. And it will continue like this. Society is already divided into parts.
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34 sats \ 3 replies \ @IamSINGLE 25 Aug
No, it's not divided as it's divided in India. The Apartheid is so much different than casteism here.
The society isn't divided too much there, but it's more of a propoganda that's been running after it was abolished. People do not treat one another the same way as they used to pre 1900 world.
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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @TNStacker 25 Aug
Saying people don't treat others like they did pre1900 says nothing about whether or not influence remains. Under this flawed logic, if I beat you about the head everyday, but then stop, you would say those beatinga no longer have influence. They no longer have the same influence, but there is influence regardless.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 25 Aug
I said the same way. Yes, I accept the influence still exists!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 25 Aug
Yes, it may be a propoganda in Indian context but I believe @Undisciplined here #660768 has given a better clue about this.
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34 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 25 Aug
Here we're specific to American society. Do you reconcile it with the discrimination in India?
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32 sats \ 1 reply \ @BitcoinAbhi 25 Aug
I am talking about world not specific about any country.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 25 Aug
Ahh! Alright!
When do you think Society was undivided the last time?
It's always been divided as far as I can remeber and read from History.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 25 Aug
That's a great number for America 😅
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 25 Aug
Slavery is still here. It’s debt slavery
But history always matters but it doesn’t have to define the future. All races are disenfranchised. What about the poor whites being slaves to big coal? Was it chattel slavery no but was it economic slavery absolutely! And that area is still being punished
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug
Not the same thing
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug
Notice how vague the questioning is and what a stark statement the headline is?
"America Divided on the Legacy of Slavery" sounds very different from "still influences society today?".
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