195 sats \ 8 replies \ @TheMorningStar 7 Sep \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon
I did zap top comments, top posts and also made a post which got good engagement. However I did not even make it to the top 20, not even top 40. While there's a stacker I can clearly see remained on 10th place who just zapped 500 sats, made a post which got only 27 sats, 0 comments. How did he make it to the 10th rank?
Don't take me wrong but it's not just, not only with me but also there are many stackers Who deserved that 10th spot. I dont know how this all works, but its just unjust. Correct me if I'm wrong. This will be my first and last discussion about it. I'm not here for Sats but I actually don't have means to buy them and then zap on SN.
https://m.stacker.news/50383
https://m.stacker.news/50381
@k00b @ek @siggy47
I'm sorry this happened to you, we will check on it to verify what happened. I agree, it looks weird.
Keep in mind that it also depends on how early you zap which you can't see from the leaderboard and to some degree how long you've been here (since you accumulate trust from other stackers by them zapping you over time):
Each stacker has a trust score on Stacker News. New accounts start without any trust, and over time stackers can earn trust by zapping good content, and lose trust by zapping bad content.The only consideration that factors into a stacker’s trust level is whether or not they are zapping good content. The zap amount does not impact a stacker's trust. In addition, stackers do not lose or gain trust for making posts or comments. Instead, the post and comment fees are the mechanism that incentivizes stackers to only make high quality posts and comments.A stacker’s trust is an important factor in determining how much influence their zaps have on the ranking of content, and how much they earn from the daily sat reward pool paid to zappers as explained here.
I'll think about a way to make this more transparent but it's not easy
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I'm sorry this happened to you, we will check on it to verify what happened. I agree, it looks weird.
Thank you so much sir for your detailed reply and please don't be sorry. I've been just keeping an eye on there with the particular stacker. If it's just for one day, I wouldn't bother you. It's just happening for more than 2 days now. The particular stacker seems to be sticking there above many other stacker who IMO provide way more quality and engagement on SN. I don't just understand how a random stacker with a zap of 500 sats without a single comment and with a post that did not gather any attention provide more value than the stackers Who are whose comments and posts are their in the top of zaprank.
Also, the trust score that you mentioned here confuses me when I look into this stacker's bio. He only has 10 items and not joined too long ago. His 10 items have hardly got him 1000 sats. But overall his stack is more than 34k. Surely this stack has gone from rewards pool. I can't really get it.
https://m.stacker.news/50390
Please look into this and please don't take me that I'm asking just because my rank had been way too down. I'm asking this because many good stackers aren't getting what they deserve.
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It's just happening for more than 2 days now.
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I don't just understand how a random stacker with a zap of 500 sats without a single comment and with a post that did not gather any attention provide more value than the stackers Who are whose comments and posts are their in the top of zaprank.
Maybe we're biased too much towards early (big) zaps.
Also, the trust score that you mentioned here confuses me when I look into this stacker's bio. He only has 10 items and not joined too long ago. His 10 items have hardly got him 1000 sats.
Trust score is not based on what someone posts but on what they zap since their zaps influence ranking of other posts and you can't see their zaps.
So this means in theory, you could post really bad stuff but if you zap consistently good stuff (the stuff that other stackers also zap after you), you would have a high trust score.
In practice, they should learn that their posts don't perform and only lose them sats.
Rewards aren’t about quantity, they’re about quality among other things.
You can read the FAQ for details.
Here’s a section with relevant bits: https://stacker.news/faq#how-does-stacker-news-rank-content
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Thank you sir for the reply but he stacker that qas on 10th rank does not seem to provide any type of quality. He just zapped 500 sats that too not on one post. His post did not gather any engagement and be didn't make any comment. So, my question is - Can someone be up on the leaderboard without getting too much engagement? How the stacker whi was on 10th rank provided more quality than @BitcoinErrorLog, @Bell_curve @DarthCoin and many other stackers placed below him. These are the stackers, aa I can see provide way more value than a random stacker who just zapping 500 sats in the whole day.
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I said many times: on SN do not focus on how much sats you earn. SN is not about "earning sats" but about sharing good content, PAYING with sats to post.
Few things stackers should think about, using SN:
- Consider the reward system as a bonus for sharing knowledge and helping others.
- Spend wisely your sats, zap wisely
- Keep a balance between what you spend and what you get. Balance into the force is important. I know, is not easy to keep that balance, but think in long term, not in days or weeks.
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