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50 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 4 Oct \ parent \ on: The ethics of borrowing in fiat, in order to buy bitcoin bitcoin
I'd say it's perfectly ethical to exploit those inflicting an abusive system onto others. You want to make sure that the consequences either fall on you or on someone else who deserves it.
Borrowing fiat to buy bitcoin fits that mold. Either you're wrong and you pay or you're right and the bank pays (or it's win-win, I guess).
But the bank never pays, because it creates money out of thin air and collects interest. If they buy bitcoin with that interest they can win too.
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It's not that the bank never pays. It's just that the bank would never have to pay if they made smart decisions.
If inflation outpaces the interest rates on a loan (as has happened on my mortgage) then the bank will end up with less purchasing power than it started with.
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If inflation outpaces the interest rates on a loan (as has happened on my mortgage) then the bank will end up with less purchasing power than it started with.
But is that really the case? From what I understand it creates the money to be loaned out of thin air through fractional reserve banking. They don't lend from their reserves or deposits.
They gain the interest and lose nothing, because it's not their own money that's being inflated away. But since the loans need to meet the fractional reserve requirements, one could view loans at rates below the rate of inflation as an opportunity cost.
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In the US, there are no reserve requirements on lending and there haven't been for several years, so clearly there's some other constraint. If banks could just spend arbitrarily out of thin air, why wouldn't each bank just buy every real asset in the world?
When the bank lends out money at a particular interest rate, it still needs the interest payments to cover its operating expenses. If inflation is outpacing the interest rates, then the bank will be operating at a loss.
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