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10 sats \ 56 replies \ @DesertDave 15 Oct \ parent \ on: Have you ever completely changed your mind on something big? alter_native
I suppose labels can be helpful.
There're not just helpful, they're all we have to make sense on anything. Conversely, wherever we don't have them, there's no sense, no compass.
The sterile debate on labels happens when there's already a meaning associated to the label yet "there's a more fitting label". Like the fact "liberal" means "libertarian", yet it became associated with "socialism". Ok, we can go past that one, for everyone, even the ones who disagree, perfectly recognize the label-meaning connection. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what's the specific sound, only the sound-meaning connection matters.
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I feel like I make the most sense of my reality through silence. And also, I understand what you are saying. Words are powerful.
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The fact I might have words for something doesn't mean I have to express them aloud. Words have equal meaning when kept to one-self.
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Maybe even more so. That's like prayer. I think speaking things into existence is powerful when are alone. Or even just in the mind.
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It absolutely is on it's own. I practice that daily. The good thing is that, since you where capable of making sense of something because of the words, you do can share them if the opportunity arrives.
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Sharing is nice. words carry more strength when we share them with the right people.
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Amen.
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I think humans may choose to live more like animals. My dogs don't reason with words. They move with sense and intuition. Humans get the gift of language. With great power, comes great responsibility. It seems it often confuses us. People often use words to trick others. Like the media does.
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My dogs don't reason with words
All living beings with a brain do process information through finite abstractions. Your dog perfectly identifies "hunger", "human", "owner", "own name", "sadness", "food", "walking", "stick", "water", "happiness", etc. Those are all abstractions which the dog connects either to a feeling, a specific bark pattern, or a sound (like when you call him by his name). We only got more sophisticated at barking, but the logic remains the same for the brain can not operate otherwise but through connecting a thing to a label.
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Yes. And experiencing things for what they are, is more important to me than the word we give it. The essence. Dogs identify and catalog thousands of smells. No names needed. Do words make that process better?
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is more important to me than the word we give it
Everything haves its place. Eating is more important than worrying about the word "eating" in itself. Yet to survive within a society you better know the word "eating".
Dogs identify and catalog thousands of smells. No names needed. Do words make that process better?
The label exists, though, for it's needed, as you said, to identify and catalog. The specific wording of the label becomes important when the information as to be transmitted. Like when a dog identifies you by your smell, and emits a barking that's specific to you, either to call you, or to announce your presence to others.
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So again. It's how we connect. I guess babies would probably Just think in pictures? My thoughts feel like words often.
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Your thoughts are patterns that have many labels and grades associated. When you see a person you not only think "Steve", you connect all of the metadata you have associated to that recognized pattern, like "brother", "47", "relevant person", etc
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I can also feel things in my body that can't be described. Like our "gut" feelings. Without any words, we communicate a lot. With out any previous interactions, or stored meta data, I will decide how I feel about them. Much more than their name And age, etc.
Exactly, it's all about the connections. It's all we can do, we can't escape that for it's the structure of the brain itself: "input A causes relay B to turn on". That's it.
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It's all energy moving around.