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129 sats \ 5 replies \ @kepford 17 Oct \ parent \ on: Without the State, Who Would Confiscate the Generators? Politics_And_Law
What I'm saying is its actually worse than real communism. Because it has just enough of free market capitalism to keep it from self destructing. China has learned this lesson to some extent as well loosening up.
Honestly, this whole topic is why a lot of us just say "statists". It covers all the evil.
why a lot of us just say "statists". It covers all the evil.
well said, in just one word.
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Exactly, although if you read Hoppe's A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism you might also stop making distinctions between different types of statism and just identify all of them as socialist.
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I need to read that.
Honestly. I get asked by family and friends what the difference is between communism and socialism and it isn't a simple answer. I don't think many people realize that many leaders in these systems we call communist called themselves socialists. Not communists. There isn't a big difference and we should not be happy with how popular socialism has become. Its a bad sign of how weak the intellectual right really has been.
My theory is that the right is either just to dumb or they like the state to much to really properly destroy socialist ideas. Anarchists and Libertarians do a far better job.
Of course socialists do a far better job of critiquing the American Left than do Conservatives. Its just annoying to listen to right wingers call US politicians communists when there isn't a huge difference in the two parties.
Harris is saying a bunch of crap that plays well with left wingers. If she was in the UK she would not be accepted by the socialists. The US is just so politically ignorant.
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As you pointed out with China, the ruling elite have settled on a similar playbook just about everywhere.
Something I used to talk about with my Chinese colleagues was how China and the US have been converging to the same form of governance.
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Yep. I think it is a mistake to mislabel this as communism. That cedes the ground won against the system. It fails. It always fails. Even if it were not done by evil men it would fail.
So when you call the US or China communist you make it seem like it doesn't fail. Same goes for calling Sweden socialist. Its not. They have social welfare but they are market economics.
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