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2008 If I'm not incorrect is when the Ukraine nonsense began.

But I've studied out history back further and we might even say that it's a perpetual coup.

Kennedy Assassination, Lincoln Assassination... Andrew Jackson challenging the central banks.

Wikileaks published a cable from Russian ambassador to Sec State and Pres

Nyet means nyet: Russian redlines regarding NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine

Cable was from 2008. Published in 2010 or 11

edit: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

thanks to @wingalt for finding cable

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Yes, that was the coup in Ukraine. I was thinking of the coup here.

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Those were the first NATO moves on Ukraine. The neocons got more and more rambunctious after Obummer was selected.

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Yes, I have to agree, but the communist revolution or coup happened in 2008. We chose it ourselves. I still question what happened to Ron Paul.

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Which specific event in 2008?

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How Ron Paul got screwed in the primaries and conventions. McCain people were absolute tyrants.

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