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471 sats \ 67 comments \ @Golu 29 Nov food_and_drinks

Debates over the proper human diet tend to get heated quickly, especially when it comes to eating meat. You may hear arguments that humans either are or aren’t supposed to eat meat based on various evolutionary, biological, or ethical considerations.

Depending on whom you ask and what life experiences they’ve had, you could get an answer that ranges from fairly overarching to extremely personal.

Read it here https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat

Then it made me think there are obvious reasons to debate for humans about eating meat. Humans actually have the teeth that make them able to tear and chew both.

Also, I learnt that people all around the world eat turkey on Thanksgiving. I'm not putting this question for moral or ethical answers, u would rather want to hear health benifits that meat can provide.

I don't eat meat but I eat eggs and dairy products. I don't hate or be fyi fyi when someone eats meat before me.

So, guys why do you think humanity needs to eat meat? Is it really necessary? Why do you eat meat?

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56 sats \ 16 replies \ @TheMorningStar 29 Nov

I'm not against eating meat but I can't eat it now. I also think that many people like me don't eat because of religious obligations. There's nothing wrong in it because vegetarianism can fulfill all your health needs.

205 sats \ 15 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

Research Shows Vegan Diet Leads to Nutritional Deficiencies, Health Problems; Plant-Forward Omnivorous Whole Foods Diet Is Healthier https://www.saintlukeskc.org/about/news/research-shows-vegan-diet-leads-nutritional-deficiencies-health-problems-plant-forward

175 sats \ 8 replies \ @TheMorningStar 29 Nov

You guys challenge the benefits of Ayurveda but adopt Yoga. A vegetarian diet is enough, has been enough for ages. You can come to India and DYOR.

110 sats \ 7 replies \ @anna 29 Nov

I really appreciate this comment. I’m a yoga teacher and I am practicing seeing people with less judgement.. but I really struggle with those who are serious about practicing yoga and completely disregard all the texts that speak about diet

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

@Anna, I would really appreciate it if you could explain in a little more detail.

443 sats \ 3 replies \ @anna 29 Nov

Hatha Pradipika prohibits the yoga practitioner from eating “flesh foods”. Gheranda Samhita also implies that a yoga practice without following a careful diet of pure foods will not be successful in healing the body.

These and other texts like the Bhagavad Gita and the texts that form the basis of Ayurvedic science encourage eating a sattvic diet for physical, mental, and spiritual well-being. That is, foods that are fresh and wholesome like fruits and vegetables. Meat would fall under tamasic foods which are heavy and hard to digest.

Also ahimsa is one of the yamas that make up the practice of yoga according to the Patanjali Yoga Sutra. That is practicing non-violence as a moral obligation.

So I believe it is important to understand the roots of yoga (through the texts that recorded this practice thousands of years ago and the examples that serious practitioners set) and not just view it as a physical exercise. It requires lifestyle changes to really achieve the benefits.

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave 29 Nov

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @anna 29 Nov

lol they sure do

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22 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 29 Nov

Assmilker #765070

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

#786800

Your shit won't work with me grandpa! I've already told you

44 sats \ 5 replies \ @anon 29 Nov

I'm sure that in within 25 years feeding kids vegan diets will be considered child abuse. Humans are omnivores. No cultures are vegan; hardly any are vegetarian.

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

I'm sure that in within 25 years feeding kids vegan diets will be considered child abuse. Humans are omnivores. No cultures are vegan; hardly any are vegetarian.

Exactly! It's cruel to intentionally keep children weak and make them suffer. As @TheMorningStar pointed out:

You guys challenge the benefits of Ayurveda but adopt Yoga. A vegetarian diet is enough, has been enough for ages. You can come to India and DYOR.

Here’s an article for reference: https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/india-meat-map-people-relish-non-vegetarian-items-east-south-lead-way-1878313-2021-11-18

It states that 70% of Indians eat meat, so how can India still be labeled a vegetarian nation?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheMorningStar 29 Nov

Are you from India?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

Nope, but since you made the claim, come to India and do your own research. I did a bit of research myself and found this article.

Btw, Is that article accurate Or not?

22 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 29 Nov

Assmilker #765070

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

#786800

Your shit won't work with me grandpa! I've already told you

53 sats \ 11 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

Killing and butchering an animal is a sobering experience. There is a need for respect for all animals and sadly the way most meat is farmed today is not respectful. I would go as far as to suggest that eating factory farmed mammals could be endangering your own health. But fresh healthy best of all wild caught meat has to be a healthy part of any humans diet. Try to support healthy farming systems and avoid overly exploitative ones if you can. Best of all, if possible, farm and/or harvest from the wild.

7 sats \ 10 replies \ @john_doe 29 Nov

I agree with your statement because it is aligned with what I think. However you should not respect animals if you eat them.

I kill mosquitos, I don't respect mosquitos. If I respected mosquitos I wouldn't kill them. I think you should also kill dogs because they are animals. Hence saying they are human's best friends is very hypocrite (fortunately you eat dogs too since you eat meat, so you're not a hypocrite).

I like people in Africa because at least there is no hypocrisy. People can eat animals and humans and everyone is happy. Sometimes a war can happen but this is good for demographics.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

It is entirely possible without hypocrisy to respect an animal while farming it or hunting it and killing it and then eating it.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @john_doe 29 Nov

Do Russian people respect Ukrainians when they kill them? How the act of killing can be a form of respect? Please note, farming is ok, hunting is ok and killing is ok. What I disagree with is the relation between killing and respect.

I can understand that killing might be ok if someone is suffering. However I am pro-life so I would still be against killing even if someone suffers. I would then rather be in favor of medical treatment.

21 sats \ 7 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

When you kill an animal you can respect it if you have hunted it fairly or farmed it with care and you give thanks to it for its life.

Us humans are a murderous species and almost unique in the extent to which we kill each other- not sure if you can respect human opponents you kill in war- perhaps in some cases- perhaps not in other cases. I hope I never have to.

Have heard some cases reported where the victors kill and eat the vanquished and that eating them is seen as an act of respect....

7 sats \ 6 replies \ @john_doe 1 Dec

I will reply with humor.

you can respect animals by killing them,
You can respect Iraqis by killing them to bring them Democracy,
You can respect and save people from terrorism in Afghanistan by killing random people (families, kids, journalists, etc).
You can respect women by killing foetuses (in this case, killing is not only respect, it is a right).

Some people say that killing is a lack of respect. I would reply that death is life, war is peace, heil to the Victor.

Let me end the joke here. I think I am more optimistic about mankind than you, as I don't think that we are murderous species. I have never killed animals or humans, so I am a counter example to your statement.

That being said I agree people can act in a barbarian way. I am not gay and I think homosexuality is a psychological problem but it surprises me that we can lynch and beat them in public and take pleasure to look at it. Or also kill animals and still have pet animals, for me it is a paradox. In that sense I prefer canibals, I think they are more honest. But I respect everyone so happy hunting.

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 1 Dec

Your position on the global resource hegemony chain is definitely derived from murder/war. Whatever nation state you live under it has been either victorious or vanquished by competing nation states and this generally involved killing of 'enemy combatants'. Rather than making flippant jokes I am being serious as this is a serious matter. Humans are demonstrably one of the most violent toward other members of their species. Yes life is competition for resources and that often involves taking the life of others for food or territory- or both. I agree gay people do not deserve to be lynched or beaten but again that is a fairly typical expression of human tribal behaviour where members of a group will happily scapegoat/punish/ostracise anyone that can be identified as different in order to strengthen their own insecure position within the group. This exact witch hunt type behavior has been observed by yours truly in SN in my time here and seems to go almost unobserved by the majority who would not dare side with the one being cancelled....

14 sats \ 4 replies \ @john_doe 1 Dec

Sorry if you didn't appreciate the "joke". I should have called it black humor instead but sorry anyway if you felt it was not appropriate.

About the tribal behavior I agree, however similarly with the act of killing I think this is something we can avoid. At least I try to. I must confess when I was a kid I have beaten someone with the influence of the group, but I regretted it afterwards. In the Bitcoin community I try to avoid being pro-Coinkite or other respected companies to avoid following the group (I rather try DIY versions of wallets and show it to friends for example).

Just curious, what kind of witch hunt did you have a problem with on SN? I didn't observe this kind of group behavior on posts I participated, except for posts related to hardware wallets (everyone is always pro-Coldcard).

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55 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 29 Nov

I do not eat meat very often. To me, eating meat is eating death. Very low vibrational.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 29 Nov

It's time we learn to trust ourselves. "Science" isn't here to help you. Its made up. Learn to understand your own body.

126 sats \ 1 reply \ @sophostheliberator 29 Nov

Great questions, to which I have also pondered a bit as I was vegetarian in 2017-2023 for 5,5 years and have gone back to eating meat again.

So does humanity “need” to eat meat, the simple answer is no, to survive we don’t. But this then pegs another question, to live life to our fullest potential then the answer might be different. To get most of our bodies and minds, there are certain meats that are of high nutritional value for us.

Most modern societies today consume meat in one form of another. One of the biggest vegetarian oriented cultures is India. Where there are at least 20 % of the population vegetarians. [1]

So why do I eat meat? First I gravitated towards vegetarianism as a form of spiritual and mental cleansing. Two triggers for me were in 2017 the raising of environmental concerns and most importantly the spiritual book Bhagavad Gita. Overall as I reflect the experience I have to come to a few conclusions:

Diet should be a health choice, and you should prioritize health in decision making, not to worry about the environment at this stage. Besides, hurrying and forcing does not lead to good decision making anyway.
Evaluate “new research” slowly and critically. In terms of health and food, there is so much contradictory research, recommendations presented to you my all kinds of influencer groups that it is easy to find recommendations for each day. If you need to read research, seek neutral and time tested evidence, not from the headlines of news or latest government recommendations. 3.Do your own research. As you find new information to apply to your life and health seek ways to confirm if the claims are right and true. Also start the experiments in your own life small, without great commitment to it. If it is something worthwhile, you can always continue and if not, discontinue.
Give weight to tradition and common sense that has proven itself healthy. By tradition I mean your roots and the roots of civilization. I understand that not everyone has touch with their roots, or they have grown up in an urban environment where the tradition is to eat some fast food. What I mean by tradition is that for example here in Finland my parents and many older people pick up blueberries, lingonberries and mushrooms from the forests for example and store them for the winter. Or there are simple dietary preferences such as butter and rye bread that they prefer even though modern research attacks butter, butter is an example where you can do your own research. Put a slice of butter and vegetable oil based margarine outside for few days and see what happens, living things prefer butter because it is necessary for the brain and life, while they neglect vegetable oil based margarine because it does not provide much nutritional value or may even be harmful.

And based on these conclusions I decided to start eating meat again as I started to exercise more like hitting three times a week gym and two times a week running exercise. I have found that now I am in the best shape of my life. So each one of us has to make choices for ourselves.

Sources [1] Vegetarianism by country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

Well said.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 29 Nov

Honestly, because it is delicious and makes me feel full. I do eat vegetarian dishes sometimes but maybe because I feel hungry, I find that I need to consume something else after a short while.

But honestly, because meat is delicious haha

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Golu OP 30 Nov

This is the best answer. Taste is the most important cause I eat eggs. Maybe because I haven't eaten meat, I don't know the deliciousness.

675 sats \ 0 replies \ @anna 29 Nov

I’ve been vegetarian for the better part of 20 years. I feel great, and when I did eat meat I had some digestive issues/heartburn. I don’t know what to say when people give me “scientific evidence” to tell me that I am hurting myself doing this. I definitely believe that every body requires a different diet and also that everyone can exist on a vegetarian diet if they choose to

40 sats \ 2 replies \ @south_korea_ln 29 Nov

I like the taste.

Living in Korea, it would be hard to completely cut it out, if I wanted to (I don't want to).

Complex problems require complex solutions. Completely cutting out meat (if you think that would be useful for the climate) or eating only meat (if you think that's the way to be healthy) are both too simple and too extreme solutions to complex problems.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 29 Nov

yeah i eat meat because it tastes good. i eat carbs because they taste good. life is too short to subject yourself to fad diets with zero evidence- everything in moderation. the best diet is simply less- don't get fat and you're usually ok.

14 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 29 Nov

Totally agree. Going to extremes just doesn’t make sense for something so complex. Balance is definitely the way to go.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 30 Nov

I've been mostly carnivore/animal based for almost a year now. The benefits keep piling up. Previously I was a "healthy" eater, in that I ate lots of whole grains, fruits and veggies, some dairy and eggs, and occasionally meat, trying to keep the meat fairly limited. I didn't eat processed foods at all.

But I experienced a huge boost in energy about a month into carnivore, having dropped the grains, fruits, and veggies. And that's just ONE of tons of health improvements I've had.

I'm never ever going back. If you want to learn more about why we should eat more meat, and actually make meat and animal products the most prominent part of our diet, check out this book - I wrote a whole post about it: This book is blowing my mind - The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholtz

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Golu OP 30 Nov

I'll try to read the book. Thanks for the answer.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lux 29 Nov

How can people kill to eat so much plants, so evil and cruel

And they still digest the bacteria needed to break down the cellulose, so, technically, everyone is carnivore. check mate vegans ;)

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @TNStacker 29 Nov freebie

DE LISH IOUS .

And not just my opinion. My 6 year old so devours foods he loves. For a well-seasoned and prepared piece of meat, as he eats, he moans.

52 sats \ 0 replies \ @Golu OP 30 Nov

It's the one I'm thankful of for food. Food is tasty so I eat it and this makes it a very uncomplicated issue.

Maybe I haven't eaten meat, I don't know the better taste. But I eat eggs dishes for taste not for its nutritional values.

107 sats \ 0 replies \ @jawsh 29 Nov

Because it's good. Protein is needed and meat is a source of protein humans have evolved to consume as omnivores. Factory farming is admittedly a cruel way for animals to live but is basically needed due to the overpopulation of humanity.

7 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 29 Nov

Humans evolved to be omnivores. I think eating meat is part of a balanced diet and it is tasty.

7 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 29 Nov

I think we need to eat meat to stay healthy. Our digestive system is adapted to handle both meat, grains and greens. There are some proteins that are not available other wise. There are people who are only carnivores that don’t eat anything but meat.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @denlillaapan 1 Dec

Nutrients, energy density, convenience.

But the greatest added value to me, I've noticed, is satiety -- no pressure to overeat -- and a sense of fullness lasting for hooours.

I fry up my meat, or dump a big piece in the slow cooker, and that's high-quality, nutrient-rich dinner right there. Don't need to do anything else.

Simplicity of it is great.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @000w2 29 Nov

Tastes good

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 29 Nov

-are we really carnivore (see pic) ? -is there any other substitutes to meat ? -do we coexist and live with animals as we are the most "inteligent species"

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 29 Nov

I suppose, I really do not like limiting myself. Around me there are consdescending voices telling me what I should do, according to them.

I eat meat for nutritional purposes, similarly, I eat vegetables for nutritional purposes. They are both sources of nutrition.

If you want to get into the sentience issue, that is another issue. I don't always eat meat, but nutrition is important, so at times, I eat meat. Other times I don't.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dickiegreenlead 29 Nov

I am a meat eater, but I think cheaply produced meat shouldn't be legal. I also think that it should be part of the curriculum to show/experience first hand how meat is produced, meaning how it is slaughtered, so people get a grasp of what is lying in front of them on the platter.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @PoolcleanerSteve 29 Nov

Meat is food. Plants are not food. Justmeat.co Whycarnivore.com

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @C_Otto 29 Nov

I don't.

0 sats \ 12 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

Vegans always look sick.

7 sats \ 1 reply \ @BitcoinPilgrim 29 Nov

As vegetarians, my family didn't get sick as often as the meat eaters at our community school.

8 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

That's fantastic but of all the vegans I have known they all always looked sick/pale.

Have great respect for people who chose not to eat meat but it just looks like they are not healthy.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @john_doe 29 Nov

This is quite a poor way to state things. Most people who eat meat are against Bitcoin. This must be because of meat that people are not able to use their brains. It reminds me a book I read about how to lie with statistics.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

It is just what I have honestly observed on multiple occasions over many years.

Don't think I have ever known a vegan who looked healthy.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @john_doe 29 Nov

This was not my point. I don't think I have ever met someone who eats meat and don't print money at the Federal Reserve. It doesn't make people who eat meat bad people.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

I'm struggling to follow your reasoning if that is what it is. Looks more like flippant trolling.

My observation remains that vegans always look unhealthy- that is what I have observed over many years. Vegans probably struggle to get adequate proteins to sustain a healthy body is the implication and this is supported by extensive independent studies.

Perhaps your lack of complex proteins is impeding your ability to participate in a complex sequential good faith reasoned debate.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @C_Otto 29 Nov

Do I?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov

I cannot see you but all the vegans I have known have looked unwell, pale and sickly.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @C_Otto 29 Nov

Weird.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 30 Nov

Difficult to get all the required proteins and vitamins from a Vegan diet so not surprising really. People on these diets can get very weird about any attempt to suggest they are endangering their health. One couple I have known for 30 plus years are now both almost immobilised because of muscle and joint problems - I want to say hey eat some meat- grissle is great, but I know they would not listen...they are too far gone- really tragic.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @C_Otto 30 Nov

Aside from B12, I don't think it's difficult at all. You might want to try it yourself, there's not a whole lot to think about.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 30 Nov

I wouldn't dare- as I said everyone Ive known who goes vegan looks sickly. There's a hell of a lot more to it than B12... Like millions of years evolution...