It's so hard to get people to shift paradigms. Especially when they are older in my experience. It's an energetic thing. Deep down he is probably super interested. But if we don't feel like we deserve abundance, won't be able to make a shift into something that gives us abundance. It's sad and really hard to deal with sometimes. I have a few friends like this. It kind of drives me nuts. I am shifting my focus to new connections where people are outwardly curious. Otherwise I feel like I am wasting my energy. No easy task getting people to see the light of the new money.