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Excellent. I'll copy and paste your whole reply. Thanks
I've quickly updated that guide link about merchants with additional links. See in the advanced section. The first part are simple solutions, but not suitable for Woocommerce
https://darth-coin.github.io/merchants/getting-started-bitcoin-small-merchants-en.html#advanced
I added also a list of those with quisk Woocommerce plugins
He is using the woo plugin. I guess everyone does?
At the beginning of that guide I updated with a list of services that offer woo plugin.
There are more custodial solutions with woo plugin, but I didn't list them there because are also some kind of shitcoineries.
The ones listed are Bitcoin only.
I'm sending it to him. He has always been an amateur tech guy. He ran his own server in the 90s and early 2000s for his business web site. Of course he's kicking himself now that he waited so long to discover bitcoin.
Ah in this case he will like it to do it himself! Will be fun and he will learn faster.
Super cool!
He can run his own LNBits server on any PC.
Next, I need to get him on SN
You run also an Alby Hub right?
Alby also have a WP plugin, so you can be his "LN bank" until will figure it out, using a dedicated sub-account in Alby Hub.
I do. I was thinking about doing that. Right now he's chatting with a Zaprite rep. Apparently it is a bit complicated since he already has a built out website with products in fiat pricing.
No need to change anything in his website. Bitcoin will be only an additional payment method. That's all. is all done through the Woocommerce plugin.
Zaprite also is good and fast, but will need a funding source. You can provide with your node too, until he will have his own and just for testing.
He asked me how to distinguish btc on chain v lightning? He wants options for both.
BTCpay, LNbits, Zaprite, opennode have clear distinction between them and the Woo plugin offer both methods. Customer can choose to which one to use too.
From what I've seen thus far, I would have to agree with @DarthCoin on this: opennode is the easiest.
I have not yet set up my own BTC Payserver. Tried once, did not succeed, did not try again yet but hope to again someday.
I sent him down btc pay first, and he was happy to hear there are other options. He got very confused very quickly. I will suggest open node I guess if Zaprite is still confusing.
Yes, BTCpay is a complex solution at first sight, especially for somebody that don't know too much about Bitcoin and stuff... But is like using a ferrari, you know.
I am glad you convince him, this is a huge step.
Well done man!
I know him and his business well. What I didn't know is that people have been ASKING him if they can pay in bitcoin! Can you believe it? It is a business that sells product all over the world, and banks and credit card companies don't want the business. To be clear, it's legal, but the red tape is crazy.
For a business that operate mostly online through a web is quite easy nowadays to integrate BTC payments.
If you want I can extend quickly that guide I sent you, adding some instructions about running your own server.
You can even use your LND node as funding source with a LNbits instance hosted on his own server, PC, VPS, whatever. LNbits occupy very few resources and can be spin up in few min. Only needs a functional funding source.
Anyways, I suggest to not be in a hurry, analyze all the options and decide later.
Ask me anything if you need more advice.
I was just on the phone with him. He already signed up with Zaprite, downloaded the woo app, and is asking me what an xpub is! His website guys almost have him set up. I am going to use my Alby node to get him started on LN. I must say, the Zaprite support was very good.
Cool, nice that you sorted out!
xpub is only when is using an onchain method and can use from his own wallets. Just obtain it from his wallet, using Sparrow or any other app that can show it off.
For LN must provide a funding source, that also can be your LN node.
Yes, that's right. He's going to use his cold wallet xpub for the site accepting on chain. For now I'll let him use my LN hub for his retail site, but knowing him he'll be running his own node pretty soon.
Have you used Voltage before?
Yes, I use it twice, for 2 friends (1 btcpay and 1 lnbits). Is good.
But I find nodana much easier for lnbits.
I do not use it for myself. I have my own resources.
Good to know about nodana.
Thanks, man.
If you want quick and fast, opennode is the easiest with WP plugin.
Also you have Ibex.pay and some others supporting WP plugins.
If you want something more self-custodial, just spin up a hosted node with nodana.io and then you have there phoenixd + lnbits, that can be integrated easily into a WP site.
There are many solutions for a WP site, but most of them are custodial. IMHO the best one is a quick lnbits + phoenixd, on whatever PC or hosted on a VPS. Then linked with the WP site with the specific plugin.
More options here:
https://darth-coin.github.io/merchants/getting-started-bitcoin-small-merchants-en.html
and
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lnbits-for-small-merchants
If you want the best of the best, run a full BTCpay server.