At some time step t, I had x sats. At timestep t+1,  I had x-1 sats and a preimage. How can you call that symbolic when it is obviously a "real" payment? 


I am trying to account for 1,000,000 milli msats that apparently got taken from me when I updated an app on my umbrel node. An app developed by the same team behind the implementation I am running. 
 
This does not inspire confidence...

random_

Symbolic payments don't use real money

That, sir, was a real payment

supertestnet

Its a symbolic payment to acquire a L402 see https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/l402/l402

dickiegreenlead

bitcoin

Money Draining Bug? Anyone know what this L402 is in my lightning node?

I also had terminal installed. 

Uninstalling now.