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0 sats \ 88 replies \ @theonevortex 19 Dec \ parent \ on: Covenant support comparison by Vortex bitcoin
So you've read the use cases on utxos.org/uses and explored the many benefits that covenants can provide then?
Because it seems you think UTXO sharing is the only benefit gained from covenants which is far from the truth.
And if you are aware of the many other benefits then why are you lying?
many benefits
Lies, most are based on the same VTXO scam
Vaults are just dumb and nobody seems to care about it anyway so why bother bringing it up?
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Vaults is only one additional feature, there are many more but vaults are awesome because they provide a bunch of features that MuSig does not such as clawback mechanisms, delayed spending/tiered access, smaller on-chain footprint and recovery paths like fallback addresses. This allows devs to make wallets that are not only safer and more efficient on chain but also allow for cool features like inherence management among many others.
Do you know any of the other features besides UTXO sharing and Vaults or should I educate you? Because they are just as useful as the ones mentioned so far.
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If you want to store your corns in a shitfork vault be my guest
Scammer Sztorc wants yet another sidechain... yawn
UTXO sharing
isn't real, it's a scam
anything claiming to enable offlineness, also a scam
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Covenants have literally nothing to do with Sztorc's sidechain BIP 301/302 that is absolutely retarded so why bring him up?
"offlineness" is already enabled via the HTLC opcodes used for lightning, you know this right? or do you think lightning is a scam?
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Drivechains are literally on the page you ref'd, but yes agree it's every bit as retarded as VTXO's (sidechains by another name)
Lightning is not offline, if it was offline you'd have one less item to sell on your shitfork... Literally one of the biggest grievances in lightning is the online-ness requirement, jfc you're dumb.
Everything has trade-offs, learn this and maybe you won't buy into forker scams
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Drivechains are on page you mentioned
lol no Paul was just one of the many devs who voiced their opinion, literally any bitcoin dev is free to do so
Lightning is not offline
HTLCs allow for conditional payments to be securely routed across multiple participants without requiring all parties to be online simultaneously, this means you can be offline, obviously there's risks of channel closure but HTLCs absolutely enable "offlineness". Once again, try reading the BIPs.
There's nothing to "buy into", LNhance is merely a group of op codes to make bitcoin better which you would know if you ever actually read anything.
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You keep saying read the bips because you don't know what you're talking about enough to refute me, pathetic... read them yourself.
You cannot make a signature while offline, you can not broadcast a signature offline, you can not monitor for disputes while offline. Therefore, you can not use bitcoin when you're offline, no script kiddie can change that.
You've bought into false narratives with wasted time and energy. Sad.
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You cannot make a signature while offline
Yes but LN still enables a level of 'offlineness' by relying on the pre-signed txs and HTLCs. Once a channel is setup participants don't actually need to stay online constantly to keep the channel valid, watchtowers or similar services can monitor for disputes. Once again if you've actually read the BIPs you'd know this.
You can't even be bothered to read the simplest of BIPs. Sad.