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21 sats \ 34 replies \ @grayruby 26 Dec \ on: Elon says USA needs more skilled workers using H1 Visa - he is wrong Politics_And_Law
I do think there are some narrow fields (rocket science being one) where attracting the absolute best in the world is optimal but there are other instances where educating and reskilling American workers makes more sense.
What do you think?
It should be a lot more efficient for all sorts of reasons on both the company and the state sides.
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We already have enough skilled American workers but they are more expensive than H1 visa foreigners especially India
Does Silicon Valley need more Indians and Indian restaurants?
Does Silicon Valley need more Tesla owners?
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I think for the most part Americans can be educated and reskilled to take the majority of roles but maybe certain highly specialized ones in AI, Biotech, rocket science, robotics etc you can't simply say "well we will just train Americans to do it" because some roles require so much education and training and they can't wait 10 years while Americans are acquiring the skills to do them.
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I think for the most part Americans can be educated and reskilled
Not in my experience
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There are a lot of culturally uneducable people wandering around. However, I think there are enough educable people to cover all bases.
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Why not? Lack of desire or ability?
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They are correlated
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It is easier to want to do things when you're good at them.
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I'm joking (partially).
I think it goes all the way down through our elementary and high school systems. Americans are terrible students, by and large, because they never learned how to be good students.
Of the two options you offered, lack of desire is by far the more significant. I can only recall ever having one student who was putting in a lot of effort and just wasn't able to learn the material.
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Why do American whites and Asians top the charts if they're terrible students? https://xcancel.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732087511327908128
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Probably Jewish or sons of immigrants
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That's a decent guess.
I'd also point out that the chart is not topped by "American Asians and Whites". It is clearly topped by Asians, in general, followed by whites, in general.
I couldn’t recall any like that. By the time they became my students, the ones that couldn’t handle the material had already figured that out and found another pathway through life. They may have been the smart ones by going out and finding what they were really good at and liked.
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Which class? Econ? Math? Statistics? Physics?
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College student?
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Yes. I only ever taught college students.
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I think the only reason Murkans are poor students is that the Rockefellers got their claws into the education system. Before then, in the one-room-schoolhouses, students did very well and learned a lot. A lot of graduate students could not pass the 8th grade graduation test now. You have to see one to believe it.
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Starting around 1965, school districts became larger and teachers began to unionize
Public school districts and teachers
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No, this was way before that, around 1920 they got their claws into teachers’ colleges as well as medical schools and changed all the curriculum to their desired pathway to stupidity for the population they intended to rule.
I understand
My point is we have Americans right now who can take those jobs w/o being trained or re-trained but they are being shut out by cheaper foreign work visas
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