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Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @south_korea_ln 8h

Not being libertarian, I am sure there is some nuance I am missing, but it made me chuckle ;)

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 10h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 10h bot

https://xcancel.com/sarafitzmaurice/status/1876797983980691649

14 sats \ 4 replies \ @BTCLNAT 11h

I need to know if this is normal:

Before means BEFORE I KNOW BITCOIN, Now refers to AFTER I KNOW BITCOIN

I used to have my mobile screen full of multi-currency wallets and CEX. Now only Onchain and Lightning Wallets
I used to be aware of each and every "crypto project that came out". Now, and sorry for this, I feel sorry for those who follow them.
I used to think about what was the best balance of my portfolio in proportion of cryptos. Now I only have Bitcoin, in SAT, but Bitcoin.
I used to look at Japanese candles, Parabolic SAR, EMA x, MACD, asset prices, etc. Now I only look at the mempool to see the mining fees and do what is appropriate, the price of Bitcoin doesn't even interest me.
Before they mentioned a 2 TB SSD and I thought about how many movies, series and games I could have. Now, on to the good part of setting up a node.

I repeat my question: IS THIS NORMAL? IS IT ONLY HAPPENING TO ME OR IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS THE SAME? IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS PHENOMENON?

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @random_ 11h

IS THIS NORMAL?

statistically not normal. anecdotally normal.

IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS PHENOMENON?

falling down the bitcoin rabbit hole

getting orange pilled

Congrats and GFY 👍

1 sat \ 2 replies \ @BTCLNAT 11h

That's what I thought. It's the effect of the Orange Pill. I'm calmer. 😀

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @random_ 11h

whats the prognosis?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTCLNAT 45m

Always GOOD

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 12h

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 14h

@ek @k00b I thought donations to rewards would default to cc's. I was trying to lighten my cc purse so I zapped 550 to rewards but it came from my attached wallet as sats not the cc's.

40 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 14h

Are you sure you had 550 CCs and not some CCs plus reward sats totaling 550?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 13h

551 cc's 1 sat in my wallet.

Should I have donated less?

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 13h

It's possible you had 549.9 CCs or something and we rounded to 550. We don't consider CCs + reward sats together currently.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 13h

Ok. I will donate a few less next time.

74 sats \ 1 reply \ @chungkingexpress 15h

Can someone zap me 1 sat so I can see what happens with these fabled Cowboy credits please?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @chungkingexpress 8h

Thank you anon. I guess bigger amounts get auto withdrawn to my wallet, but I can see I got some CCs now...

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 15h

Day 451 of 100+ pushups per day; day 350 of 120+ pushups per day, sets breakdown: 60 normal/narrow, 30 diamond, 30 pike, 30 pseudo, 20 side-to-side, 32 staggered; Total: 202

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 16h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 16h bot

https://xcancel.com/theinsiderpaper/status/1876729772526719194

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Msd0457890 16h

Today enjoying this beautiful sunset and reflecting on the projects that I wish to undertake this year.

33 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 17h

Fun fact fuckday: when SN first started, custodial lightning was hard for people to grasp.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 15h

I love custodial lightning!

27 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 17h

hahaha and now many are jumping to use coinos... good job! Remind me of early days of nostr zaps when everybody was using WoS attached.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 15h

I love Coinos

@adam_coinos_io @coinoswallet

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 15h

Yes, it is very convenient!

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 18h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jessikabtc 19h

It's been a challenging day, but a good coffee can easily remedy any situation.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 20h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 21h

Day #181 of nut 🌰 dropping 🥜 in the Saloon

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Hint: change case on last letter

Want to harvest this nut? https://docs.cashu.space/wallets

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 21h

Living my version of the Bitcoin dream! Proof of work everywhere

4 sats \ 2 replies \ @random_ 22h

TIL the Lucifer Publishing Company has Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 19h

Wasn’t that fairly obvious? Look what the UN has done for us and everybody else!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 19h

👍

200 sats \ 21 replies \ @siggy47 22h

@DarthCoin, I know you are congratulating yourself for your prediction, but I also know you won't give intentionally bad advice. Is there any way stackers running their own nodes can help out regarding the CoinOS situation by opening channels? Can you recommend fees, size of channel, etc?

41 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 21h

Do you know what will happen next from all this madness? People will still not start running proper LN nodes and they will still use custodial accounts like CoinOS, Blink, Lifepay, WoS or whatever other like that. Because are too lazy and they do not want to take their own risks and be responsible for their own shit. This is the truth, responsibility is hard.

And all those that do not want to learn how to properly run a damn LN node (be it public routing or private) are still living in the past (fiat mindset) where a bank (in this case CoinOS or whatever) is taking care of their shit.

For the last almost 5 years I was beating my own ass and throwing around a lot of sats, just for the sake of learning how this damn LN works, testing and using all kind of solutions.

And what all those lazy users were doing all this time? Playing with shitcoins and laughing at me? Gambling their sats on shit bets? Listening bullshit crap from Saylor and Trump?

NOW is my turn to laugh.... I wrote so many guides about running nodes that I get tired. And I get only shit throw on me, because I am a damn "toxic maxi"... and crap like that. If they want solutions... they just have to read my damn guides. ALL OF THEM. Are right there and they have to do a damn job, a real proof of work, because yes, even a damn privater node needs some knowledge. And I put all my knowledge in all those damn guides. for fucking free even. Those that do not even want to read them... HFSP, your bitcoin life will be much harder than you can imagine.

No man... now I will just laugh

And don't take me wrong on this. I am glad that SN pushed the losers into this madness. Some of them maybe they will wake up and put their ass at work and learn about running proper LN nodes. Some don't.

But moving to another custodial accounts like CoinOS, Blink etc IT IS NOT THE SOLUTION! This was my warning all the time but people still don't get it. It will create even more problems and will make a shit out of those nice custodials like coinos and blink. Because this is what stupid people do better: shit on good solutions.

This is why I am pissed of... SN passed the dead cat into others gardens, but like to say it loud that now SN is using "p2p non-custodial" wallets, when in fact it is not, people are still using damn custodial accounts.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 21h

That's pretty depressing. Don't you think something like this SN experiment might help? For example, people using CoinOS are having trouble getting and receiving zaps. Just running a small node with a private channel open to SN would solve the problem, right? And they won't be paying fees either, right? People might do it for selfish reasons.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 21h

More people using Coinos and other custodials = more trouble. They will fuck up those nice services, dedicated for specific use cases (onboarding merchants for payments) not for using with SN. Now CoinOS will have another task to take care of their shit, managing a liquidity that they didn't expect it and that will have implications in everything: fees, failed payments, more relays etc. Also once they will have too many users, will be a target too...

As I said in this guide Private banks over LN, years ago, encouraging node runners with good experience to start offering these kind of services to their local communities, friends etc, where with a small group you can handle all the liquidity in a different way then for thousands and thousands unknown users. Example is https://lnvoltz.com, is a small private bank in Brazil, offering these kind of accounts to small group of people.

The whole idea is to have as many small LN banks we can, spread all over the world. THAT is some kind of decentralization, not gathering all inside CoinOS and Blink.

But nooo, people prefer to fuck each others instead of helping each others. And also running a LN bank REQUIRE knowledge and good infrastructure, not just a shity PC with an Alby Hub using (again) CoinOS liquidity...

You understand what I mean?

Just running a small node with a private channel open to SN would solve the problem, right?

Yes

And they won't be paying fees either, right?

between SN and them will not be fees. But will be fees when they want to move those funds to other wallets. That is ROUTING and routing means fees.

And I don't understand this latest urge to open channels with CoinOS? There are several many other LSPs out there much better for this use case than CoinOS node.

people using CoinOS are having trouble getting and receiving zaps

ofc they will have troubles. They do not think that for CoinOS this is an extra effort to take care... is not the same having a natural increase in number of users slowly and organized in some way, than just suddenly a thousand of new users, zaping each others back and forth (sometimes for nothing) and keeping the infrastructure at normal levels (relays, connections, servers, liquidity etc). Soon CoinOS will increase the fees and will start putting more restrictions and in this way will fuck up something that was nice. And for what? For some damn zaps on SN from assmilkers?

41 sats \ 15 replies \ @DarthCoin 22h

What "coinos situation" ? Is quite simple. Those who run their own node, just open a private channel with SN node. But for the sake of Bitcoin, do not open shity 50k channels, Next open 1-2 more channels with some public LSPs in case you need to move those sats around. That's all. Running a simple private node is so simple and you don't have to worry about any routing.

Look, I made my own tests, even this simple temporary node with Rizful is working just fine: #816432 With this full guide about managing LN liquidity I also covered a lot of options, for public and private nodes. Spin up a private node takes few minutes, you don't even have to have a full BTC node.

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @siggy47 22h

Yes. I'm doing that. Thanks.

41 sats \ 13 replies \ @DarthCoin 22h

Do you remember my old quick guide here? #679242 Also this one about the water flow analogy #552822 Stackers should pay attention to them and take care of having good flow of water. That's all.

0 sats \ 12 replies \ @nym 22h

Thanks for sharing. I haven't seen the water flow analogy yet.

29 sats \ 11 replies \ @DarthCoin 22h

Is sitting in my bio listed for long time :)

14 sats \ 10 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 19h

Just noticing, @DarthCoin, you don’t seem to be showing the obligatory horse and revolver icons. Most of the OG SN stackers seem to display them proudly. What’s up?

12 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin 19h

the horse and pistol is only for those with attached wallet. I can't say more about, is a secret. I am using ONLY CCs. So will never have that horse and pistol. I don't care. Is just a game. Horses and pistols are toys for kids to keep them busy.... and give them an impression of "earning something"...

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78 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 22h

Open channels to SN and CoinOS and keep them balanced to earn 2-3% of each zap since that's our outbound fee we're willing to pay.

Can you recommend fees, size of channel, etc?

I would open channels with at least 1m sats and I would start with fees rather high than low since else your channel might get unbalanced pretty fast. Maybe inbound fees can help with unbalanced channels though 🤔

14 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 22h

Thanks. I just completed a loop out and I have a whole bunch of sats burning a hole in my pocket.

47 sats \ 4 replies \ @IgnaciobTato 23h

Who is selling???

28 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 21h

dunno but i'm sure a bunch of poor saps got liquidated :'(

more "cheap" sats for those that DCA

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 22h

John

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @random_ 23h

SELL SELL SELL (to blackrock)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 23h

😅😅

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 7 Jan

[⚖️ SELL] your stuff
[🛒 BUY] for sats
[🧑‍💻 HIRE] some stuff or skills
[🖇 OFFER] something
[🧑‍⚖️ AUCTION]?
[🤝 SWAP] Peer to Peer
You could also give it for [🆓 FREE]
[⭐ REVIEW] anything
Or let's just discuss about business!

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @sasasuina 7 Jan

I’m here to say hi. Life is tough, and I hope everyone can get through challenging times safely and peacefully.

111 sats \ 6 replies \ @bief57 7 Jan

The fifteen million Muslims living in Europe today (fifteen!) are only the pioneers of future waves. And believe me: more and more will come. They will demand more and more. For negotiating with them is impossible. Reasoning with them is unthinkable. Treating them with indulgence or tolerance or hope is suicide. And anyone who thinks otherwise is a poor fool. -Oriana Fallací New York, September 2001

The same British judge who sentenced Tommy Robinson to 20 months in prison for a tweet sentenced two Muslim immigrants to just 6 months in prison for murdering a teenager with a machete.

12 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 21h

What's sad is actual Muslim leaders like UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed warned that this would happen if Europe let political correctness guide policy instead of common sense.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 21h bot

https://xcancel.com/luken_van/status/1873925841941651675

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 7 Jan

Is there a source on this second statement? I just spent a good ten minutes trying to find any references to the judge (Jeremy Johnson) and murder or machetes or muslims and not seeing it on mainstream or alternative sites.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 16h

It’s not on blue sky?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Johnson_(judge)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 15h

I found the wikipedia page, but can't find the reference to the murders (the Tommy Robinson case is there, of course). Not on Bluesky anymore unless folks link there, but it's also the last place I'd have looked for info on Robinson.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @bief57 7 Jan

I'll go look for it again, give me a few minutes to get it.

12 sats \ 0 replies \ @NovaRift 7 Jan

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 7 Jan

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 7 Jan bot

https://xcancel.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1876460729848782871

12 sats \ 1 reply \ @IgnaciobTato 7 Jan

Vivek:

#Bitcoin balance on exchanges hits an all time low. Supply shock incoming.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 7 Jan

2.2M/90k -> 24 months

@remindme in 24 months

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RealCoachAndy 7 Jan

Hey gang!! Happy new year!!! I'm back in business at work, so it's finally 2025 and may this year be phenomenal and filled with success and joy, it's the second day of the week and let's get our strategies set and ready, let's start this year strong and full of purpose, let's get our yearly goals and divide them by weeks and that way we can do one week at a time, we've got this my friend, I believe in you and I'm proud of you, we've come this far and we are still standing, may your Tuesday be incredible and full of productivity, thank you for an amazing 2024, eye on the ball and heads up high. As always, be well and stay frosty my good friend.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 7 Jan

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Is there anyone with some testnet funds that they are not using and could donate some for testing purposes?

Or would anyone be kind enough to recommend a site where I can get some Testnet Bitcoin?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 7 Jan

“I’m not lazy. I’m on energy-saving mode.”

23 sats \ 6 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7 Jan

King of the hill for at least an hour! 🤠

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @NovaRift 7 Jan

I sometimes wonder who this mysterious guy is that I see above all.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7 Jan

If you're a keen stacker, you'll know who it is!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 7 Jan

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7 Jan

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @OneOneSeven 7 Jan

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7 Jan

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 7 Jan

Good morning stackers. Lets make it a great day!

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 22h

Let's Go!

58 sats \ 2 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 7 Jan bot

Day 379 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 707 sats on 6Jan2025! Running total: 264,878 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 3h bot

Day 380's comment

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @zapsammy 9h

day 157: 35 sats on 1-6-25. total 5511⚡sats!

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @TNStacker 7 Jan

Touch grass. Get more sun. STACK SATS AND STAY HUMBLE

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 23h

Stretch your limits. FTS!

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @suraz 7 Jan

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 7 Jan

Happiness Journal 7/1/25

Last day of Orientation, in which teachers could have the afternoon off to ease into the new school year. I prioritised on consolidating friendships and met up with an army mate. I planned to chat with him for two hours, but of course, due to my irrepressible nature, he only let me go after 2.5 hours. In any case, I love lazy afternoons in which I could catch on my friend’s life

43 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7 Jan

A Starcraft Tournament in 2011

43 sats \ 2 replies \ @stack_harder 7 Jan

first!

think of this when boomers talk shit (although i don't think those workers could have been called unskilled , in today's definition )

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 19h

There was a time when people were earning $1.25 an hour paid in silver dollars and silver quarters. Now that would be about $35/hour. So what kind of isht would the boomers be talking about this. Also, houses cost about $9,000 to buy, new (built with good wood, too). Johnson and Nixon took us into pure fiat, not really the boomers, they were “The Great Generaton” weren’t they?

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 7 Jan

very interesting graphic

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 17h

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