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What is really funny is that in Europe it is my understanding that liberal typically means liberal economic policy, the government being more hands off. In the US these people call themselves classical liberals which is really the group that became libertarians. Libertarians tend to be laissez-faire on economics and prioritize individual's decisions on moral matters.
This whole thing is why I don't use any of these labels anymore.
  • People don't understand what they mean historically or even in current times
  • Even if they do they hardly encompass all of what someone thinks
  • Unless someone explains what they mean by a label/term you are just assuming you agree on definitions.
  • People tend to lump others into groups and straw man them. One could argue I did this in this post even.
If I have a conversation with someone about politics or economics I tend to ask a lot of questions. Probing questions that give me a clearer picture of what they believe and why. People like to talk about themselves and why they think certain things. If they don't like that then they probably aren't gonna say anything very interesting. If I probe and get nothing usually their just a NPC repeating the programming.
I also usually do this to know who I'm talking to and how I should talk to that person. As much as I have labeled it, it is the easiest way to define a huge group of people who have common ideas. In my daily life I am very political and I rarely get into discussions, I express my thoughts, which I consider to be libertarian, in a healthy way and when I am provoked to do so. I'm still learning this philosophy, but for me it's the one that best represents the world and human beings.
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My favorite outdated trope is you watch Fox News.
Right here on SN. Three different users. Their clip is empty.
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