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80 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 8h \ parent \ on: Are Most Bitcoiners Statists? bitcoin
Your comment is good for a few reasons so please don't take this as an attack. I think many share your view and experience based on my experience. I share them as you are expressing thoughts I have and have had. Here's some food for thought though.
Many of the changes being enacted today are coming from the liberty movement. Its a big tent full of libertarians, small state minarchists like Ron Paul(Someone that is also a statist but one I have massive respect for), and anarchists. I firmly believe we need people on many sides pushing their ideas. Bad ones should fall to the side and good ones which time has not come should not die. They may have to be refined.
I'm not a utilitarian but the utility of ideas does matter to me. What do I mean? Well slavery might work for the slave owner but I'm morally opposed to it. Here's the deal, slavery actually can be argued to make society more poor. Even for those that are not slaves. I believe the same is true of the state. Communism is the most extreme example and we have seen how that plays out. What we see in western democracies is different in levels of degree but there are still massive issues around the rights of the individual and the manipulation of the free exchange of property and ideas. I hope that in time humanity will learn from our mistakes but I'm no utopian. One might have described freedom to a man living under communism and be called a utopian. Personally I think the folks from the WEF are the utopians, not the liberty movement.