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Another one of my wife's co-workers got let go today, the job market is looking rough and I feel like a guillotine is hanging over us.
Worst case scenario, we won't starve, but still, I hate this feeling.
I think about the worst case scenario and if it's survivable, I try to relax.
We have some uncertainty, too. I need to start looking for work, but my industry is all backed up right now and most of the hiring has already happened.
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109 sats \ 1 reply \ @freetx 26 Feb
I think about the worst case scenario and if it's survivable, I try to relax.
Thats basically stocism (which you probably already know).
  • Imagining worst-case scenarios to appreciate current blessings and prepare for challenges, fostering gratitude and mental toughness
  • Focus on controllable aspects like your actions and thoughts, and accept that there are uncontrollable ones to reduce stress
  • Focus on living in the present, free from past regrets or future worries
  • Prioritize virtues like wisdom and courage over material wealth or status
  • Embrace change as a natural part of life, fostering resilience and adaptability
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I'm a big fan of Stoicism.
When I would find myself getting stressed over an exam or project at work, I would stop and think "One way or another, you'll still be here afterwards and the consequences will be whatever they will be, but they'll be manageable."
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And if it's not survivable you don't have to worry about it because you will be dead.
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That's pretty defeatist (or maybe just very Zen). I'd say try to avoid the worst case scenario, if it's not survivable.
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It's survivable, we've done it before, but it's definitely not fun.
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I have a different emotional mode for bracing myself for something that's going to suck.
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I'm just not looking forward to it at all. I know I'm not going to lose my house or anything, the last time this happened though, I had to put in some extremely long hours to keep our head above the water.
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83 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 26 Feb
I lose myself in work but that mainly just hides it and it comes out in other ways.
Best thing for me is to just spend a day not thinking too intentionally but also not too distracted by anything particular - walking, exercising, building something repetitive but rewarding, meditating, etc.
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I'm stuck in this stupid truck all day, so I try to stay distracted, unfortunately I hit a point where I just can't listen to stuff. It will be on, but I get too stressed to pay attention to whatever is playing.
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28 sats \ 0 replies \ @398ja 21h
My wife was let go two years ago, and hasn't been able to find a permanent job since, only three short term contracts. The job market here is brutal, especially in her sector, but also because she was very senior, and the job market is flooded with applicants.
She's now retaining as a career coach but it will take years for her business to reach the same levels of successes.
How to deal with anxiety? I tell her to remember there are things she can control, and things she can't, and how good she is at the things under her control.
Also, financially, she's/we're ok (still)
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55 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ge 26 Feb
Learn other trades invest in yourself takes me back to Earl Nightingales talk about it's better to be a man that knows a little about alot of things then to be a man that knows alot about 1 thing. For example a pilot if they get let go they spent all those years known a plane inside out but when there's no jobs he is helpless. Faith and prayer my man in the good and the bad times
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What NOT to do: download a heartbeat monitor app and check your heartbeat multiple times a day
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Don’t worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday. -- Mary Schmich: Advice, like youth, probably just wasted on the young
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That's really good advice
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I don't.
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14 sats \ 2 replies \ @Fabs 26 Feb
Yeah, but then again: You're a legend and legends don't die.
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Fabs IN THA HOUSE, my god.
#fangirling (or should I say "fabgirling"?!)
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#Fabbing

Although it's a decently distinctive way to show one's endorsement of my greatness, one also might choose to opt for "Fabitulation" (a bastardization of "capitulation"), showing that one chooses to wholeheartedly surrender himself to my all-encompassing amazing-ness and enlightenment.)
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Realest answer yet.
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It's tough. I wrestled with this last year when my wife was having some health issues and then had to have a major surgery. It's difficult to get out of your own head sometimes and stop the what ifs from bouncing around your brain. I am a big advocate for having an outlet. Whether that is working out, playing a musical instrument, building things etc that you guide all that energy towards and that can capture your focus.
Good luck!
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Health is way worse than finances. Intellectually i know I should consider myself to be lucky.
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Relax and breath deep. Usually what you are anxious about is going to disappear into yesterday.
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All things change, even the shitty things. It sucks to be in the middle of it, but yea, it passes
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stop smoke weed 🤠
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I'm tested. Can't do that unfortunately
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Chamomile tea really helps!
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Slamming coffee probably isn't helping....
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a beautiful blessing it came to be that day I let go not, let go of me NOW I am free free to just be be in my work my work made for ME
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wake up in time to see the sunrise and start getting thru the written list of basic tasks for the day. anxiety comes and goes, and when it goes away, start training and teaching harder.
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Try not to worry about things you can't control and planning/being prepared for the future to the best of your ability without obsessing over it. Trust in God's plan. There's always something God is teaching you.
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Like many wise stackers, I go into worst-case planner scenario and dial it right back as far as it will go.
One thing I find helps me, in a work context is being proactive, so I search for more clients, doing more outreach. Now, usually, not much comes of this, but taking action, I'm at least not sitting around for the ax to fall. I'll look at online courses and learn a new platform or something. I need to feel like I am taking some action.
Another thing that helps is past experience. I mean, I've had it happen where I've lost all my clients and income at once, and it's happened a few times, last Two Christmases in a row, I lost big contracts, actually. Luckily, all the xmas shopping gets done way earlier.
My wife relies on a rental income in freaking rubles and she's had situations where it's either a tenant that walked 3 months in arrears and stole furnatire, or the wild fiat swings of the ruble or some gay law Putin has dreamed up kicking our ass. The abyss is my old friend, I get worried when things go too well for me because I feel like the next ball shot has to be coming lol.
Now in your case, since in this case, it's your wife's job and not something you can control, I would just support her in finding interviews and looking at reskilling, if applicable, and going hard on putting aside more money before the income gets slashed. checking out the temporary unemployment benefit situation.
Then i'd map out a situation based on a long-term job loss and, for example, what happens if she cant work or find a job for like, a year or something crazy, whats the timer until the bank forecloses, could you release equity and live in a van for a year or something and rent the house out?
Put any and all of it on the table
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Luckily, with my wage alone, if I work a lot of overtime (about 55 to 60 hours a week) we can tread water. We can't, save anything though, so any unexpected costs are going to dig into our savings until it's gone.
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that's good, at least, you can put a timer on the savings as well, like ok, this will last until x, then you can generate scenarios for those time frames.
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Yea, it just puts a lot of pressure on me. I have to get the hours at work, which isn't always easy. On top of that 11 to 12 hour days are brutal.
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all that, literal, trucking has to be hard on the back right? will you have time to do any mobility work and stuff?
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I get in and out of the truck dozens of times a day, so it's not too bad. I also still make time for my weight lifting.
Having an optimism that sometimes borders on childishness
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Listen to your wife. Not for giving her advice but allowing her to vent without interruption
Anxiety is probably worse for her
Have her previous coworkers landed jobs at new companies? Maybe they should be her next target
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My wife really struggles with anxiety, so I don't talk to her like this. I just tell her it's going to be ok and we will get through it.
As far as her co workers. Not yet they haven't.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @kurszusz 4h
The job market is looking rough worldwide unfortunately... Be strong, and try to find a 2nd source of income (even if it's not a permanent income)... Hard times are coming I think...
About anxiety...when I feel some similar, I go to a long walk (especially in nature where is quiet, away from the "civilisation")...and try to not think about job market (or whatever cause you anxiety)
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @fiatbad 17h
One of the best things you can do to deal with anxiety is find someone else with anxiety and help them through it. Totally melts your own anxiety.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatsMate 17h
Here is what I do:
  1. Go to the gym, or do classpass and interact with others
  2. Listen to chill music (I like Skyrim Sleep soundtrack)
  3. Read the bible
  4. Go out in a forest/park and go for a nice long 5-8 mile run
These are the things I have found tremendous value doing when the anxiety ticks up
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The knowledge that “this too shall pass”
Knowing you only have a limited amount of energy. I think in terms of a battery - if you have a lot of energy going out (energy can be in many forms - one being stress/worry) and not much going in, this leads to spiraling, fried nerves, impulsiveness, anger etc.
Fill your cup and really focusing on only what you can control - if it’s out of your hands - let it be.
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I run outside in nature and sunlight
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This is going to seem really weird, but honestly after going carnivore I'm not bothered by useless anxiety anymore. Normal worry and concerns yes, and also trying to avoid and fix problems. But not the stomach clenching anxiety. And my mood was improved just generally.
They call it carnivore calm.
Also in practical terms - I would reduce expenses now, if possible. Look at the biggest items on your expenditures, and see if you can whittle away at them. Having a nest egg can calm anxiety a lot. See if you can pick up some side gigs if possible.
FYI - I just bought 20 pounds of ground beef for $3/lb. There are good prices out there if you research and stock up when you find them.
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Venlafaxine 150mg. It took a while to find the right medication and dosage, but it's been a game changer for me.
I eventually want to get off it, I'm in a much better place in my life now where I think it could be possible.
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We go through anxiety oftentimes, but sometimes it's not as intense as experienced previously, and with time to come, we laugh at it. Personally, I take deep breaths, eat chocolate, and try to engage in some other work that could distract my mind. And with all that, I try to think of a solution.
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You said it all, you are worried. For me living a simple life makes me worry much less about money and the future.
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Same here. One of my past colleagues getting told to sell their house for a loss and move to another city (where they will likely be laid off in the next round of cuts). They applied for 3 positions at my fiat job 2 they were qualified for and one they were overqualified for. Put in the time to write a nice cover letter, sent my recommendations to HR only to wait 4 weeks to be told they do not have anything to offer this person with 20 years experience in HW and Software engineering.
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Ouch.
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I don't worry about things I can't control, now the tricky part is learning to not worry about it.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @orto 11h
Most jobs in the market do not require creativity, or people are not asked to be creative. Get your creativity going. And try to make money from that creativity. Over time, you will see your stress decrease. Even if you don't make money, let your creativity run wild. You'll feel relaxed.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 14h
How to deal with anxiety?
Meditation could help you
IMO
But in this case, your anxiety caused by the fear of being fired will always exist as long as you do not take control of your life with respect to work and as long as you do not let go of the dependence on an employer. It is not easy to live without depending on an employer (being your own boss) but with work and focus it is possible in the long term. You just have to find your way.
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Theoretical: “Today I escaped anxiety. Or no, I discarded it, because it was within me, in my own perceptions — not outside.” ― Marcus Aurelius
Remember the hard times you've been through in the past. And yet, you're still here, with more experience and wisdom than before. Remember how many great men have suffered, and suffered a lot (think Gandhi, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Jesus, Goggins, Frankl, etc.). They carried their burdens to become great - so great that we know of them, sometimes hundreds if not thousands of years later. I wrote a post called "Study the Greats" not too long ago - it may be of help: #872084
Practical: Meditation/yoga, working out, walking/running in nature, grounding, sunshine, good food, good people, working on something tangible with your hands, journaling. Perhaps most importantly, practicing gratitude for the things that are good in your life and surroundings.
I have this short to-do list that helps me from time to time again:
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dot 19h
Hey, work is just one of the twelve aspects of life. It's important, but you also have relationships, health, family, and more. You can always start over and find new opportunities. And you can also transform the pressure into excitement for challenges. Wishing you confidence and strength!
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