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31 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 28 Feb \ parent \ on: The talks between Trump and Zelenskyy are getting WILD news
there is also the question was aid to Ukraine a gift or a loan
because there is no way Ukraine can pay it back
From reading some more online, this is what I gather has gone down.
- US wanted Ukraine to give up portions of land already controlled by Russia to Russia
- US wanted Ukraine to sign minerals deal with US to pay back loan
Zelensky agrees to those 2 points, but he makes it contingent that US provide "security guarantee"
Trump refuses this as it keeps US perpetually on the hook if and when fighting reignites.
Thats what led to the blowup in the meeting.
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Trump should make a deal with Putin:
Donbas is neutral
Crimea stays in Russia
US extracts minerals from Ukraine
new elections in Ukraine to get rid of Zelensky
update: new leader of Germany publicly supports Zelensky, which is symbolic only
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The current blow up puts weird pressure on Putin. If he continues to attack it makes it look like either (a) he and Trump are secretly ganging up on zelensky (which Trump would hate) and/or (b) that he is disrespecting Trump and destroying Trump's peace promise which hurts him politically.
Its a tough call on how to proceed.
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Putin cares mainly about:
no NATO membership for Ukraine
Crimea stays in Russia
Donbas is independent
Thanks, that's useful to know
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