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Looking for @DarthCoin's hidden 1 BTC in his guides

572 sats \ 66 comments \ @m0wer 12 Apr bitcoin

The user @DarthCoin has hidden the mnemonic (12 words) for a Bitcoin wallet with 1 BTC in one of his guides. This is how I've tried to find it.

So the information that we have is that they are in one of the guides, in random order. We assume that it's in one of the 12 general guides, and in the English version. Which might be wrong but we have to start somewhere.

We can then look for words from the BIP39 list (2048 English words) and see how the matches look like in the text. This gives us way too many results and no clear pattern (nothing like 12 valid BIP39 words together).

So we need to make more assumptions to narrow the search space. What if the words where all in the same paragraph? If we look for paragraphs with more than 12 valid BIP39 words, there are more than 2500... Way too much.

So let's make another assumption. Paragraphs with exactly 12 BIP39 words. There are 14. That's doable.

So, how hard is it to find the right order of 12 words? There are ~480 million permutations of those 12 words. Luckily, because of the BIP39 standard we have some advantage, the 12th word is a checksum. So only 1 in 12 of those permutations constitutes a valid mnemonic. We are down to 14 paragraphs with ~50 million valid mnemonics from each.

How do we find the one with 1 BTC? That's the next adventure. We now need to derive an address from that mnemonic. Is it a Hierarchical Deterministic wallet? Let's assume so... But what address do we generate? Legacy? SegWit? Taproot?

In theory the words have been there for 5 years. That means it must be one of the old guides, and probably the address is not taproot(?).

I've written a script that derives the legacy address for each and checks against my mempool to see if it has any transaction history. It takes ~100h for each paragraph to check all. And maybe I was wrong in some assumption. Let's see how it goes :-)

The paragraph I'm the most suspicious about is:

You will never sell your bitcoins back for fiat, you only stay humble and stack sats</a>, spend, buy back or earn then. HODL is the ultimate duty.

Is then instead of them a misspelling or a clue? Because them is not a valid BIP39 word.

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129 sats \ 2 replies \ @Satosora 12 Apr

Haha I applaude your effort. Just give up. You have more chance at finding the physical bitcoin that he has hidden. The 1btc is his backup, in a worst case scenario situation.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

It's fine. Was interesting to learn how hard it is even to figure out the order having the 12 words...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 12 Apr

Just give up.

34 sats \ 23 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 Apr

You are wasting your time trying to rob my BTC instead of learning more about Bitcoin. That's not what a real bitcoiner will do, only shitcoiners want to take what is not theirs...

91 sats \ 22 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

I'd give it back if you want it. And wouldn't be robbing if you literally give me the keys.

I think it's been a fun experiment and I've learned about Bitcoin in the process. Furthermore, I'm either discouraging the next person that sees your nerdsniper message (https://xkcd.com/356/) from trying, or at least saving them some time to get started ;-)

82 sats \ 21 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 Apr

if I would let on a table a paper with a wallet seed on it, you would take it and use it for yourself without telling me ? Taking something that is not yours, isn't it robbery ? And you are doing it also with premeditation.

158 sats \ 20 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

No.

But if you leave a riddle and challenge people to find it, then yes. And I would let you know as I did. Feel free to move them, they are your coins. The challenge still works even if the account is empty. Would be satisfactory enough to find a wallet that once had 1 BTC.

When I started I thought that you actually wanted people to find it. As some kind of reward for getting educated about Bitcoin. You literally say: “read my guides, there's even the 12 words for a wallet containing 1 BTC on them, in plain sight”.

152 sats \ 19 replies \ @flat24 13 Apr

“read my guides, there's even the 12 words for a wallet containing 1 BTC on them, in plain sight”.

When I read this for the first time, my head 🤯 exploded. (As when I heard him say he left 1 BTC under a rock 🪨 Over there on some European path) 🤯

I did not understand how someone could leave a 1 BTC out there.

Then I understood that @DarthCoin was simply someone who had many BTC. And his life will not reach them all even if he wants to do it.

I thought the following: 🤔💭 This man has left a great challenge for those who are worth finding it. And that is amazing.

I don't understand why he says now that they want to steal it ... 😵‍💫

You should be happy. (Someone appeared worthy who resolved the riddle). And it deserves its reward.

Maybe he thought no one could achieve the feat.

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @LibertasBR 13 Apr

I understand it the same way. Same goes for the photo of the cats with steganography for a wallet.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @flat24 13 Apr

Reading about the cats' photo, it was somewhat revealing for me. In my ignorant world I never thought that such techniques were possible.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @LibertasBR 13 Apr

I found that out while watching Mr. Robot, and since then I’ve used it for things I consider really important. The way @DarthCoin used it by placing it in a public space opened up new horizons for me. I realized I can use places like that to have things available to me whenever I want, wherever I am, without needing to carry them around or store them in a personal storage service or server.

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0 sats \ 14 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Apr

One thing is to leave a piece of paper with 12 words under a rock in the middle of nowhere, with instructions how to GET the sats, as geocaching game. And another thing is to hide 12 words in a guide, online, as a proof that nobody can think about it as a place to keep a seed.

As I said: if I leave on a table, in a coffee shop a piece of paper with 12 words of a seed, 99,99% of people seeing it will take it as it could be THEIR property. Only 1 or 2 will take the paper and give it back to me.... THAT is my point. People nowadays think only in TAKING what is not theirs... there's no respect for property.

The intention of finding them is clearly of taking something that is not yours. This is the wrong part that people do not understand. They think that if is posted online, it up for grabs, they don't even think about THE MORALITY of that act, that is pure robbery.

And I did that exactly to see how people nowadays think. There's no morality, everybody wants to do harm to another (steal, damage, kill) and we will never evolve to a higher level of intelligent beings if we do not respect the natural law.

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @flat24 13 Apr

I understand your point, I also have little or no faith in the populace.

When reading your words in the guide, I could swear that you invite me to solve the challenge of finding the hidden words.

And I also thought that doing so would lead me to an empty wallet. Assuming that you are an intelligent being and that you did not really leave 1 BTC hidden in a guide waiting for a hacker or some mortal to take it at any time.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Apr

Is real. But I leave it for me. Yes, is a backup, not the only copy. Is a backup of a backup of a backup, in case that any of other copies are destroyed/lost, I could still have a way to get those words from my own texts, posted online. Even that github/substack for example will wipe the entire of my content, my guides are still spread in other places, other languages so I can still reach my seed.

"The invitation" suggested was EXACTLY my point, to see how people think and act, ignoring totally the natural law. I've tested that even with the few most ancap friends I have IRL. They still want to take my sats LOL. Very few were saying from the start: "if I would find the words, I will not take your sats... that means stealing and I do not agree with that".

If more people will start by respecting the natural law and not the bullshit invented "laws" by the govs, we will have a better world. But people are retarded... prefer to hide behind any other "gov law" that fit for their retarded mind doing harm to another and call it "LEGAL". They forgot the meaning of the word MORAL/ RIGHT.

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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @m0wer OP 13 Apr

Not so clearly if so many of us got it wrong. But don't worry, it's clear now.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Apr

PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER MY WORDS... AFTER I WILL DIE. And that's why I wrote this important article about bitcoin and natural law: https://darth-coin.github.io/general/natural-law-bitcoin-en.html This is another deep rabbit hole that many bitcoiners are still afraid to take. I've done my mission on this fucked up planet, now is time for me to leave.

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @TrumpNakamoto 12 Apr

Interesting to solve an unsolvable problem 🤑

10 sats \ 8 replies \ @hasherstacker 12 Apr

This is interesting! What are the chances of getting the hidden coins?

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

I would say that without more clues it's not doable. It needs to be narrowed down even more or at least validate the assumptions so that it makes sense to leave a server trying for months.

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @hasherstacker 12 Apr

Well, I think this might make @DarthCoin to move the coins to another address. I wouldn't leave the coins in an address, whose private key is hidden in a known series of books and articles.

94 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 Apr

why would I do that? He have 0 chances to find it. I am not worried that somebody will find it. I am more worried for what kind of people are trying to find it. And on top of that it shows his shitcoiner character, trying to take something that is not his.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @hasherstacker 12 Apr

Hahaha! I like the way you think. For sure, shitcoiners exist. They exist to get what they don't deserve.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

Since when does solving a riddle make you a shitcoiner? Where do you deduct that I would move the coins if I ever found the wallet?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @hasherstacker 12 Apr

I don't think Darth's aim for hiding the key was to let people to compete for the coins as a puzzle.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

I see that now. That's why I've quited.

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 12 Apr

Wow this is a fun adventure. Good Luck.

10 sats \ 11 replies \ @OT 12 Apr

Hope you find it. Don't know if Darth would make it that easy.

BTW, how did you narrow that info down? You wrote a script or was it an AI model?

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

There isn't that much info from Darth (one guide, random order words, there for 5 years). The rest are just guesses (within a paragraph, with 12 BIP39 words, first address). The script just computes the permutations, checks if they are valid, and derives the addresses to look up via mempool API.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @Longtermwizard 12 Apr

Whats do u use to do that? Its interesnting and i want to learn.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

Python.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @Longtermwizard 12 Apr

Can u send me the code u used?

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

Can I @DarthCoin? Or will you get angry at me again xD

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Longtermwizard 12 Apr

Do you need permission to share knowledge?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

Of course. stacker.news is his kingdom.

JK, here you go. I removed my mempool link. You will have to find one with higher rate limits.

https://pastebin.com/fBSh4G01

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Apr

Happy hunting!

@DarthCoin, I knew you had done this, but are you hoping someone will find it or were you making a point about how secure seed phrases are?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @yfaming 17 Apr

Great work! You might find this post useful: How I checked over 1 trillion mnemonics in 30 hours to win a bitcoin. It’s a fascinating read.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 13 Apr

This is a series I want to follow since I don’t have the technical knowledge to find it myself.

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Dkryptoenth 12 Apr

Is it possible to stack without spending?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

Sure. But what's the relation with this post?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Dkryptoenth 12 Apr

Everything! Cos I wonder how you're able to stack up 1btc without spending out of it or don't you own the wallet? @klk

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

That's not my wallet. Ask @DarthCoin

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @jakoyoh629 12 Apr

The seed words can be different from the ones in the dictionary, right?

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

You can derive a wallet from anything. Numbers, a passphrase, rolling dices, ...

But when people talk about 12 words it should be the BIP39 standard.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

These are the paragraphs from 2021 having exactly 12 valid BIP39 words:

No clear suspects...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @m0wer OP 12 Apr

The sentence I was the most suspicious about is from 2022 so that shouldn't be it... Must be one of the guides from 2021... And there's one from December that year about moving your cold storage to taproot xD Is this another clue?