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44 sats \ 11 replies \ @88b0c423eb OP 22h \ parent \ on: To talk or not to talk with normies about libertarianism ideasfromtheedge
but that's kind of utilitarian argument, I prefer to go more on by principle. But in the end people don't care about principles.
You can still bring in principles when discussing issues. The point is to not waste time talking about abstract labels like "libertarian", "capitalist", "socialist", etc, but simply address each issue on their own with concrete discussions about the policies and their effects.
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I agree, but maybe talking about the NAP as most people are leftists that think they are protecting the weak and opressed. Then why not start with the non-agression principle.
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Because their idea of oppression doesn’t map cleanly onto the NAP.
They are perfectly fine with forced redistribution of resources and abstract rights concepts just don’t land with them.
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I honestly don't understand that. It's like when they're against gun ownership because of violence and will exercise violence to enforce laws against guns, totally retarded.
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Ever heard the saying, "If you're under 40 and a conservative, you don't have a heart. If you're over 40 and a liberal, you don't have a brain."
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with my libertarian friends here we say it about 20 years old. lol
You might be interested in some work on the different fundamental perspectives held by political tribes.
I wrote about a post relating it to bitcoin a while ago: #653982.
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Just read it, very interesting indeed. When I spoke about the non-agression priciple to relatives they all told me I am very idealistic and naive. As those defending the end of slavery 200 years ago, but then we are still slaves but that's another discussion.
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Exactly. We’re very unusual for being interested in the ideas.
If you want to talk to people, it’s best to meet them where they are.