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LSP's are less of a technical problem with mobile nodes, other than the fact that mobile nodes are inefficient ... Mobile nodes, existing only to sell services, are centralization toward specific LSP's. ... But, he's also been one of the worst offenders in championing the normalization of mobile nodes, and
I've talked a lot about Mobile Nodes and ECash being terrible ideas- and regret that it was perceived
Keep in mind that splicing benefits LSPs, particularly those shilling Mobile nodes, who often need to ... repurpose liquidity because mobile channels are a waste of capital. ... Individual nodes have the alternative and classic route of simply opening a redundant channel, which
Mobile nodes exist for one reason and one reason only, to sell you something. ... Mobile nodes and "Node-less" (someone elses node) fake L2 wallets are an attack on Lightning. ... To the extent mobile nodes are self-custodial is a distinction without a difference, it's a distinction
Mobile nodes had poisoned the roadmap for a long time, healing is to focus on the shell not the protocol
The problem with greenlight specifically is that its geared towards mobile nodes to make them lighter
Our whole thesis is that mobile nodes are a dead-end. ... The newer breeze-sdk's aren't real Lightning nodes, its fake L2/cloud larp. ... They seem to have abandoned LND on mobile.
Cost is another yet factor no one wants to mention with these unsustainable mobile nodes. ... In most cases these mobile nodes are still distributed in a completely trusted way, and can be rugged ... Such concerns can only be mitigated on mobile if the mobile has limited scope access to the node.
nodes non-sustainable. ... convenience product, it's just a bad business without charging high fees... and it's the high fees make mobile
The only purpose to removing the justice tx is for fake nodes on mobile devices, which are unreliable ... Mobile nodes are upstream of all the fud, trust, and stupidity that goes on in lightning, and the provenance ... Most nodes aren't, nor should they be, routers.
I've dunked on mobile nodes and their toy use-cases for a long time, and now the capitulation to that
LSP's will find it increasingly difficult to sell channels to hobbled devices like mobile nodes when ... are just a few reasons the mission for shockwallet and lightning.pub is so important, making remote nodes
nodes from trusted webservers as required by LNURL... in so doing Bolt12 attempts to normalize mobile ... nodes which are bad for Lightning and hurt adoption by demonstrating Lightning in the worst possible ... nodes that can't be relied on for ad-hoc payments because they are default off-line Bolt12 claimed to
As a permission-less network people don't need permission to do stupid things Running mobile nodes for ... and failure probability at the network layer Too many channels, even people that run highly available nodes
Permissionless revenue is the gateway drug to self-custody and decentralized platforms The mobile-node
Mobile nodes are an attack on Lightning. ... Lightning nodes are servers. Any L2 requires interactivity. ... Lightning on mobile devices Some people never learn.
This is why mobile nodes are a dead-end, they're too costly to maintain for the low volume and online-ness ... of a mobile device.
It can work but only with lightning.pub or LNC to a stationary node, mobile nodes will be extinct soon