trevthom1

AskSN

Which Bitcoin phone wallet to recommend for newbies

teemupleb

For most people, I think Ark wallets like [Arkade](https://arkade.money/) or [Noah](https://github.com/smolcars/noah) are going to be the most handy.

Education

Does anyone have any resources for finding people to teach ESL, but get paid in Bitcoin - whether it's a company or privately? Ideally where you can make your own hours. My wife is a stay-at-home mom and would like to be able to do that during our kids' nap time.

Get paid in Bitcoin for teaching ESL?

What's the best Replit-like tool?

Undisciplined

privacy

The surveillance state is getting more aggressive, how will you defend yourself?

wackster

Here you go, big guy. You were probably too busy watching Star Wars movies to learn about this.

![](https://m.stacker.news/147798)

It's a figure of speech.

I bet you also have a hard time with "deafening silence",   "open secret", "living dead", etc.

This is sovereign citizen garbage written by someone who has no idea how statutory construction works.

That being said, for anyone with the nuts enough to do it (although it really doesn't take nuts because it's completely legal), it is possible to stop paying income (and other) taxes in the United States and exit the scam safely - one just how to understand how the scam is operating.

Politics_And_Law

Do You Really Understand Tax Law?

Unless you know how law works (generally) and how to make them go away without a court case. The right evidentiary record would make them leave you alone because it would put the truth of the scam into a public document (court case), which would destroy the entire scam. They can't and won't let that happen, so they leave you alone if done correctly - and they continue going after the smaller fish.

Your employer (if you have one) is the one who could fix this immediately, but everyone has been so brainwashed into being afraid of the IRS. All of their power relies on the general population being good little sheep.

As an example, there would be zero repercussions if an employer stopped requiring a W4/W9 and let you take home 100% of your pay. That is also one of the signals to the IRS that a 1040 might be due by an employee! No W4/W9, no tax liability (unless they still stupidly withhold it and report to the IRS). Literally one of the fastest ways out if you could convince them there's no penalty - because there isn't.

They're a scam, but not in the way most people think.

I'll make a more detailed post later - hopefully with more direction.

# Do You Really Understand Tax Law?

*Most Americans think they do. Almost none of them do.*

***

Every April, millions of Americans sit down and fill out a Form 1040. They've done it their whole lives. Their parents did it. Their employers told them to. The IRS sends reminders. It feels like civic duty — something every American does, like voting or jury duty.

But here is the question almost nobody asks: *who is Form 1040 actually for?*

The answer, grounded in the original Treasury Decisions that created the form in 1913, is not who most Americans assume.

***

## The System Was Built Around a Foreign Problem

The modern U.S. income tax was established by the Revenue Act of 1913. Within weeks, the Treasury Department began issuing regulations — called Treasury Decisions (TDs) — to explain how the new law worked. Those early TDs reveal something critical: the entire withholding and return system was built around one specific problem.

*How does the United States collect tax on money flowing out of this country to people who aren't here?*

Nonresident aliens — people who are not U.S. citizens and don't live in the United States — owned property here, invested in American businesses, and earned income from U.S. sources. They were taxable under the new law. But they were overseas. The government couldn't collect from them directly.

The solution was to intercept the money before it ever left the country. Any U.S.-based person who had "control, receipt, disposal, or payment" of income belonging to a nonresident alien was required to withhold the tax and pay it to the government — filing a return on the foreign person's behalf. This domestic party responsible for collecting and remitting the tax became known as the **withholding agent**.

The form for reporting those withheld taxes? **Form 1042.** Still in use today.

Form 1040 was created at the same time — but look at what the original Treasury Decisions actually say about who must file it.

***

## What the Original Treasury Decisions Actually Say About Form 1040

T.D. 2131 (1915) is explicit:

> "A return of annual net income on Form 1040 is required in all cases of individual incomes **subject to the tax**, except where the individual's tax liability is required by law to be satisfied at the source."

And further:

> "When an individual is liable for the normal tax **only**, and his entire net income is subject to withholding, **no return on Form 1040 is required to be filed.**"

Let that sink in. The original regulations state plainly that if your tax is fully covered by withholding at the source, you don't file a 1040.

So who *does* file it? The TDs are equally clear. Form 1040 is used in two specific situations:

**1. By agents and representatives of nonresident aliens**, to report U.S.-source income earned by their foreign principals and settle any tax not already withheld. T.D. 2109 (1914) and T.D. 2815 both make this explicit — nonresident aliens, or their authorized agents, use Form 1040 (later Form 1040-NR) to report income from sources within the United States.

**2. By the nonresident alien themselves**, when their tax liability has *not* been fully satisfied by withholding at the source — to establish their actual net income, claim applicable deductions, and either pay what remains or recover excess amounts withheld.

In every instance, Form 1040 appears in the original regulatory framework in the context of *foreign persons with U.S.-source income* — or the domestic agents acting on their behalf. The regulations are talking about the system for ensuring that income generated here, flowing to people over there, gets properly taxed.

An American citizen living in America, earning his own wages from his own labor, is simply not the subject of this system. He is not a foreign person. His income is not flowing out of the country to a nonresident alien. The withholding and return framework was not constructed for him.

***

## "US Person" — A Functional Role, Not a Label

This is where the terminology gets important — and where the confusion runs deepest.

"US Person" is not just a casual description of an American. In tax law, it is a term of art that exists within a very specific context: the framework governing payments flowing to foreign persons. Within that framework, a "US Person" is the domestic counterpart — the payor, the intermediary, the withholding agent — standing between U.S.-source income and its foreign recipient.

The critical insight is this: **"US Person" is a functional role, not a permanent identity.**

Think of it this way. A sheriff is always a U.S. citizen. But a U.S. citizen is not always a sheriff. The word "sheriff" only means something when a person is performing the functions sheriffs perform. Outside that context, the title has no operative application.

The same logic applies to "US Person" in tax law. The term is activated within the specific regulatory framework of the withholding system — the payment chain where U.S.-source money flows toward foreign hands. When someone functions as a payor or intermediary in that chain, they occupy the "US Person" role. When an ordinary American citizen is simply earning wages and living his life, the term carries a different, more limited relevance — and crucially, it does not automatically invoke the withholding and return obligations built around the foreign-payee problem.

Treasury Decision 8881 (2001), which governs the modern withholding framework, defines a withholding agent as "any person, U.S. or foreign, that has the control, receipt, custody, disposal, or payment of an item of income of a **foreign person** subject to withholding." The entire framework is oriented around the foreign person as the subject of the system. The US Person is the mechanism through which that foreign person's tax obligation is fulfilled.

***

## The Withholding Agent: The Real Taxpayer in This System

The withholding agent is the load-bearing structure of U.S. tax law. It is any person — a bank, a broker, a corporation, even an individual — who stands between a U.S.-source payment and a foreign recipient. Their obligations are:

* Determine whether the payee is a US person or a foreign person
* If foreign, withhold the applicable tax (the default rate, unchanged in concept since 1913, is assessed on U.S.-source income flowing abroad)
* Deposit that amount with the government
* File the appropriate returns — Form 1042, Form 1042-S — reporting what was paid and withheld

If the withholding agent fails, *they* become liable for the tax. The government builds its enforcement leverage around the domestic party precisely because the foreign recipient may be out of reach.

Foreign entities receiving U.S.-source income — dividends on U.S. stocks, interest on U.S. bonds, royalties, rents — must provide documentation establishing their foreign status and the proper treatment of the payment. This is the W-8 series of forms: W-8BEN for foreign individuals, W-8BEN-E for foreign entities, W-8IMY for intermediaries. These forms are how a foreign person tells a withholding agent: *don't treat me as a domestic payee; here is my actual status.*

The withholding agent who cannot associate a payment with proper documentation must apply presumption rules — and in many cases, must withhold at the full rate to ensure the government gets paid regardless.

This is the system. It is elegant, it is durable, and it has been essentially unchanged in its fundamental architecture since 1913.

***

## Americans Have Been Signing Forms That Aren't For Them

Form W-9 is the domestic counterpart to the W-8 forms. Under the regulations (specifically T.D. 8881, §1.1441-1(d)), it is a certification — made under penalties of perjury — that the person signing it is a "US Person" within the meaning of the withholding framework. It tells a withholding agent: *this payee is domestic; do not apply Chapter 3 withholding.*

Financial institutions routinely ask customers to sign Form W-9. Most customers sign without question, assuming it is standard paperwork. What they generally do not understand — and what many of the institutions requesting it may not fully appreciate — is what the form actually certifies. It is not a general identity document. It is a regulatory declaration of status within the foreign-payee withholding framework.

An ordinary American citizen earning wages from an American employer, with no connection to the flow of U.S.-source payments toward foreign persons, is being asked to certify a status that was defined to describe a role in a system that wasn't built around them in the first place.

The same observation applies to Form 1040 itself. The form's origin is in the framework for taxing nonresident aliens' U.S.-source income and settling the accounts of those whose tax wasn't fully collected at the source. The regulations that created it describe its use in terms of foreign persons, their agents, and the withholding system. Somewhere along the line, the form was normalized as the standard filing obligation of every American — and generations of citizens have complied, never asking whether the underlying regulatory framework actually required it of them.

***

## The Takeaway

U.S. tax law is not primarily a system for taxing Americans on their income. It is a system for ensuring that income generated within the United States — wherever it flows — is subject to U.S. tax. The original regulatory framework was built to solve the foreign-payee problem: money leaving the country, going to people the government cannot easily reach.

The forms, the filing obligations, the withholding requirements — all of it was designed around that problem. The US Person is a functional role in that system. The withholding agent is its enforcement mechanism. Form 1042 is how withholding gets reported. And Form 1040 is how a foreign person — or their domestic agent — settles their U.S. tax account when withholding at the source didn't cover the full liability.

What it was not, in its original regulatory construction, is a universal obligation imposed on every American citizen earning domestic income from domestic sources.

Americans have been filling out forms that, read against the actual regulatory record that created them, were written for someone else.

nostr

WhoIsThat - an app to help you remember details of neighbors and other people

bitcoin

I had my local coffee shop accepting Bitcoin, but all of a sudden the Bitcoin payment option has disappeared and there is no icon on the customer-facing screen to select that option when paying. Bitcoin acceptance hasn't been deactivated by the merchant.

Has anyone else had this issue and know how to fix it?

Square POS

I see a lot of people on Facebook and Nextdoor selling their services without a company. I thought it would be a good to have a directory for this (with OSM), including in-app messaging and built with Nostr so all of the data is aggregated. I love seeing apps built that take government and companies out of the equation.

Full disclosure: I used Claude Opus 4.8 to build this entire thing, but everything I've played with so far, has worked. And it looks nice! I know there is likely spaghetti code. I don't care :)

You can see more here: https://github.com/trevthom/local-buys