21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 13 May \ on: Can Bitcoiners Solve Landfills - How Big Business Broke Recycling and Blamed You bitcoin
I think this is fundamentally the wrong way to approach the problem.
If throwing stuff away is priced appropriately, and people still do it, then burying trash in the ground is the best solution.
If people decide landfills are too costly, then other solutions will emerge naturally.
Remember, there are no solutions, just trade offs.
The price of throwing stuff away is made up for with its convenience, but here's the bigger idea for you.
Bitcoiners can't make disposables.
Bitcoiners don't own factories in China...(except for the ASIC producers...I feel like some of these things can change, but for right now hang in there with me)
If we can make reusables as cost effective and convenient as trash, then that's one less dependency on the FIAT economy that the Bitcoin economy would need to pull from. We price it all in Bitcoin, and then that becomes a dependency that the FIAT economy has on Bitcoin.
Sure, the FIAT economy could replicate it, but would they be willing to? Their entire supply chain and manufacturing process works a certain way and changing it would take time, maybe enough time for people to start getting used to and normalizing Bitcoin payments.
Just a thought. Industrial washers do exist (https://www.webstaurantstore.com/49791/commercial-dishwashers.html) if the flow goes from house to washer to producer to consumer and back again, maybe that becomes more convenient and more cost effective than trash (I haven't done the math though)
While some person is there picking up your bottles, they might as well deliver as well. Cram as many things for every person along the chain to do and as many markets as possible for them to serve and we would really entrench ourselves.
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Ok, I think I get where you're coming from. This is part of withdrawing from the fiat economy.
My hangup then is that I'm forced to pay for municipal trash services whether or not I use it, so why should I impose an extra cost on myself to reduce how much trash I throw away?
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Welp that's a personal problem lmao. Not all of us are paying for trash by default lmao.
Oh I'm sorry to give you that response, but really I don't have a compelling argument for what you should do if you're forced to pay for something. Maybe the people delivering food in this supply chain scenario can also take your trash to the dumpster or something idk lmao.
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