Police can complain all they like about strong end-to-end encryption making their jobs harder, but it doesn't matter because the technology is here and won't go away.

That's what Robin Wilton, director of internet trust at the Internet Society, told us when we spoke recently about the state of E2EE in light of Europol becoming the latest international law enforcement group to urge regulators and tech giants to ditch the practice. It's a lively chat that you can see in full below.

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