sad but true

conversemos, pa que soy bueno? :D

The question is , how these store pays for the supplies they provide ?

For the same reasons you listed, we should stop recommending wallets like WoS around here. At least we are getting serious about open source and custodial stuff.

This is not the first time he is “leaving” He will come back when he miss insulting others and his ego needs to see this kind of soap opera posting.

Exactly…

Around 8 years ago , my best friend of the time proposed me a very nice business , I gave him more money than I was prepared to lose, I never thought he would lose it all.

The issue of the LN is inbound liquidity.

same can be said for blockchain addresses. you can "be" on the network but e-commerces can reject payments from non - KYC addresses and in fact can be worst as they can request to every partner to KYC information of every address they interact with. I see that scenario easier to implement. the LN is a step forward in privacy.

ok, lets say, me iguano, did a kyc with bitrefill and I have a channel with them, and you create a channel with me, (i did not request from you kyc) how will bitrefill know?

the nodes on the center doesn't know where the payment come from and where it goes. So if 3rd node is able to connect to the node asking for kyc, and you are able to connect to that 3erd party node. you will be able to route payments via the KYC node without them to know.

You will always be able to avoid KYC on open protocols.

I thought they already have some services using liquid

well right now, a rip off I guess 350 sat/b are the minimun fee atm I think.
I only use muun as onchain wallet as I use phoenix as lightning wallet.

Yes, correct , you have to pay onchain fees for every lightning transaction.

Taking a look, thanks

Thanks for bringing this discussion, I would like to understand better too.

It is called “troll loop”