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Federations on Mutiny wallet - Questions

280 sats \ 10 comments \ @cristaiji 15 May bitcoin_beginners

I’ve started trying out Mutiny wallet on iOS. I haven’t yet opened a channel but I did join the Freedom 1 federation and sent a small number of sats to it. So far so good.

So then I tried to send the sats out of the federation but Mutiny Wallet is saying ‘unknown’ error. Any ideas what might be going on here? Cheers. 🙏

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11 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 15 May

I hope you weren't the first stacker to get rugged. Do you know who's in control of the federation?

edit: @TonyGiorgio is the best stacker to help you with this.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @cristaiji OP 15 May

Great thanks. Hope not although it’s only a couple thousand sats. 😄

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 15 May

Every single sat is precious!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 17 May

One reason this happens is for invoices with no amount specified, can't pay them and that's the error that shows up.

If that's not the reason, we'd need to have you open a ticket and submit logs for us to take a further look. https://github.com/MutinyWallet/mutiny-web/issues

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 15 May

Got the sats back by sending them to the same federation on the Fedi bravo app. Then it was easy to send them out of the federation to another lightning wallet. Still not sure why mutiny was coming up with an error. 🤔

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @cristaiji OP 15 May

Here’s my guess. While the sats are with the federation they are ‘esats’ so my options are to convert back to lightning through opening a channel or try sending the sats to another federation first.

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @_b_o_n_e_s_ 15 May

hi there, its difficult to say whats going on as not a lot to go with , can you rule out some of the simple things. like can you confirm its not the internet connection, as in are you typing this question from the same device? have you tried restarting the device?

if you've only sent a couple thousand sats in you will need more to open a channel (minimum is 100,000)

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @cristaiji OP 15 May

Thanks. Does the fee to open a channel vary as I’m guessing it incurs an on chain transaction fee .

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @_b_o_n_e_s_ 15 May

yes theres a setup cost for channels. i dont know exact formula but yeah the onchain part varies

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji OP 15 May

Thanks.