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It is OK to not feel empathy for Charlie Kirk dying
126 sats \ 10 comments \ @79c9095526 11 Sep news
Not having empathy for someone who didn’t extend it to others is a normal human reaction. You’re not obligated to manufacture sorrow and empathy for anyone.
Should it have happened? No. Does everyone have to feel bad? Also no.
However, I do feel terrible for his wife and kids.
Compassion has to have its limits. For example, there's a reason nobody joked about Robin Williams death. If you spend your life doing nothing but bringing the world joy and spreading love, you will have your death praised by all.
But if you dedicate your life to furthering the divide of Americans and spreading hatred, you're naturally going to get a lot of people who don't care to mourn your death. Again, compassion has its limits.
I personally believe that nothing justifies it.
With that being said, Charlie Kirk himself would justify it, had it happened to someone else.
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81 sats \ 5 replies \ @SimpleStacker 11 Sep
How did Charlie Kirk spread hate?
I think you are spreading hate.
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50 sats \ 0 replies \ @398ja 11 Sep
"hate" are just arguments they can't refute...
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 11 Sep
I'm not aware of Kirk spreading any hate. Spreading ideas that people don't like... yes. There are plenty of hateful people on the right. Not sure Kirk was one of them From what I saw, he wasn't.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @79c9095526 OP 11 Sep
Here are a few examples for you. You may not agree with all of them, perhaps one resonates with you:
On Black Women and Affirmative Action: Kirk made derogatory remarks about Black women leaders, stating, “You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken seriously” without affirmative action, targeting figures like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee. He added, “You had to steal a white person’s slot,” which critics labeled as deeply racist and demeaning.
On the Civil Rights Act and Martin Luther King Jr.: At a December 2023 Turning Point USA event, Kirk called Martin Luther King Jr. “awful” and “not a good person,” while also criticizing the Civil Rights Act of 1965, which outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, and national origin. He stated, “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s,” a view condemned for undermining civil rights progress.
On Islam and 9/11: Commenting on Zohran Mamdani’s win in a New York City Democratic primary, Kirk said, “Twenty-four years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11…Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City.” This statement was widely condemned as Islamophobic for linking an individual’s faith to a terrorist attack and stoking fear.
On Gun Violence and the Second Amendment: Following a school shooting, Kirk stated at a Turning Point USA event in April 2023, “You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death… I think it’s worth… some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.” This was criticized as callous for seemingly dismissing the value of human lives lost to gun violence.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 11 Sep
I notice that your examples do not link primary sources, likely take words out of context, and even use "..." to extract only the words that make your point. For example, when he talked about brain processing power, it sounds like he was attacking a specific individual and not attacking a racial group as a whole.
However, at face value, I do agree that some of these words are unkind and uncharitable and unbecoming of a public figure. That being said, you'd be able to find unkind words in the corpus of anyone who does as much public speaking as he does.
To be honest, I don't really want to talk to you anymore about Charlie Kirk. You can have your point of view and I'll have mine.
If you want to debate the issues directly, gun control, affirmative action, etc, I'm happy to do so in a new thread.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @79c9095526 OP 11 Sep
Your question was "How did Charlie Kirk spread hate?"
I answered the question with my opinion and some ways where I found his speech 'hateful'.
You then say you don't want to talk about Charlie Kirk.
That's cool.
In terms of unkind and uncharitable. These are the ways we excuse things imo. We've done that for years with Trump, who brought this type of divisive language to the forefront about a decade ago starting with Obama is not an american but a somali or whatever and John McCain isn't a hero (pretty sure he had the flags that were flying half mast raised because he hated McCain). The examples are too many to count.
This type of language and the hatred it inspires and the subsequent violence it inspires is no accident. Words do matter. I am not saying there aren't people all across the political spectrum who say bad or hateful things. But I wasn't playing whataboutism, I was talking about a specific example in response to your question.
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17 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 11 Sep
With that being said, Charlie Kirk himself would justify it, had it happened to someone else.
Do you have any evidence of this? Kirk justifying a political killing? I didn't follow him closely enough to see this if he ever did it. Honestly, I would be surprised. I did listen enough to him to know I disagreed with him on many areas.
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34 sats \ 0 replies \ @CliffBadger 11 Sep
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Zion 11 Sep
Didn't know about him till he was killed so I'm indifferent but one got to fell for family though - that's why we human.
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1037 sats \ 0 replies \ @c44d273060 11 Sep outlawed
stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.