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Why don't you go live somewhere there is no government if you hate government so much?
Because I want to bring the Heavenly Peace to earth, obviously. Such a place doesn't exist yet. It's my responsibility to remain here and liberate my homeland from its government.
How can you have a homeland without a government?
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How does having my own guns and money be forcibly taken from me by a separate organization make me more secure? See, this is the mistake statists make with everything. You see something big and complicated, in this case defense of the homeland, and you just assume it has to be managed by a government. You do it with everything, and then after the government predictably mismanages everything, you blame the regime or some particular policy instead of the system where one guy is allowed to dictate standards for industries they know nothing about.
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You wont have much of any industries without a government to provide rule of law and property rights for them. USA will be just like Somalia in the 1990s the way you are going bud. Poetic justice perhaps.
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You wont have much of any industries without a government to provide rule of law and property rights for them.
Why do I need the greatest violator of property rights to enforce property rights? It makes no sense. Citing Somalia as the prime example of statelessness is such a meme scare tactic. We're not even at Hyperbitcoinization yet. Have some imagination.
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Fun fact: Somalia's economy improved relative to its neighbors after its government collapsed.
Even the lazy "What about Somalia?" pseudo-argument works against them when you make the right comparison.
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And you rushed to go live there? US government drones sent to kill people in Somalia is just one example of US imperialism and how it uses its power projection to maintain resource hegemony over all other nations. Yet your sock puppet Cliff chooses to remain with you in the USA and benefit from the wealth and extraordinary privilege of US imperialism than go anywhere with no government.
Libertarians are hypocrits.
Government is the major determining factor in the wealth of nations.
In Somalia with the removal of central government local customary, sharia, and tribal law continued to operate. Just because there was no government with representatives before and subservient to the UN and other US controlled international institutions there was still government in local and provincial Somalia. And yet this is the best example Libertarians can come up with of no government because their idiotic ideology doesn't work. In the absence of government the first thing people do is clamour to form one.
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there was still government in local and provincial Somalia. And yet this is the best example Libertarians can come up with of no government because their idiotic ideology doesn't work
But having one less government was still a plus.
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We're never the ones who invoke Somalia, but sure it's our fault when a statist's dumb talking point is demonstrated to be dumb.
That's a very fun fact. I should have known.
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'President Trump has remade Washington’s role in Latin America with a force not seen in decades, deploying U.S. military and economic weight with abandon and treating the region as an exclusive sphere of influence.
No American president has exerted as much pressure on the region since the height of the Cold War, when Ronald Reagan focused his efforts there on battling left-wing Central American insurgencies and the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua.
From the Mexican border to Patagonia, Trump is punishing adversaries with high tariffs, airstrikes and rhetorical broadsides while offering those he considers friends security aid and economic deals. One analyst called it, “The Donroe Doctrine,” a play on the 19th-century Monroe Doctrine guiding U.S. policy toward the region.
The region is crucial to the president’s goals of stopping migration and the flow of drugs into the U.S. while trying to counter China, which has deepened economic and diplomatic ties in Latin America the last two decades.
“We haven’t seen a U.S. president as brazen and as aggressive as Trump has been in Latin America,” said Michael Shifter, a senior scholar at the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington policy group. “His mindset is that the region is the U.S.’s backyard and his strategic prerogative, in the name of protecting the homeland and boosting ‘America First.’ ”
Allies who flatter the president and align with his worldview—from Argentine President Javier Milei to El Salvador’s Nayib Bukele—are scoring deals and a warm embrace. Those who defy him—most notably Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula de Silva, Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro and Colombia’s Gustavo Petro—find themselves in his crosshairs.'
You live in USA and thus benefit from US Imperialism and resource hegemony over other countries. The US government does not just bully and tax its citizens it bullys and taxes people globally. And you benefit from that. The price you can charge for cleaning a car is higher because of US hegemony and imperialism. Own it.
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I don't claim one way or the other whether I personally benefit from imperialism or not. The math on that is besides the point. I'm just saying zero federal government would be more fair to everyone involved in general. I don't see why you have to make it personal.
Even if the U.S. government didn't exist, socialist regions would still end up poorer than the ones which embrace capitalism. You're aware of that, right? Or do you want to pretend that nationalization of industry is actually good economic policy? Do you think it's America's fault that Venezuela went to Hell?
The blind leading the blind with outright lies and deluded sophistry.
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