Higher taxes motivate the wealthy to move out of state and take their job-providing, revenue-creating businesses with them.
As New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani prepares to take office, tax-happy progressive groups are eager to let you know that the idea that rich people move because of taxes is all a big myth. There are no consequences to raising taxes on rich people, they argue, because rich people will be rich no matter what.
It’s a pretty picture, and a convenient one for those who have never met anything economically productive that they didn’t want to tax. The only problem is that the data proves it just isn’t true.
The latest media blitz comes in response to Mamdani’s campaign proposals to raise the income tax rate for top earners in the city from 3.9 percent to 5.9 percent. That’s in addition to statewide rates, which currently run as high as 10.9 percent. That means that, under Mamdani’s proposal, the wealthiest Big Apple residents would face state and local income taxes as high as 16.8 percent, even before federal taxes.
But never fear, say progressive groups such as Patriotic Millionaires — Zohran can tax to his heart’s content without fear of millionaire tax flight. They attempt to fortify their claims with research by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities and tax-happy academics who make points that are technically true, yet entirely miss the point.
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There's a fallacy in this article - rich people don't produce jobs. They make more money and invest it to make more money. If the investment happens to produce new jobs, that's a side effect. Trickle-down economics is complete bullshit disproven decades ago. The evidence is in the fact that the extreme rich control more of the money supply than ever, and the middle class and lower are stretched farther with less liquidity.
Taxing the rich adequately and reducing chronic inequality is a positive policy for economic and social improvement.
USA has become increasingly divided between super wealthy and millions on or below the poverty line- its simply not good economic management to fail to tax the rich adequately.
Mamdani clearly has voter support and his policies look likely to succeed in a revitalisation of New York if the wealthy pricks who have controlled the city for decades do not succeed in removing him or sabotaging him and his policies.
You think New York will be revitalized by the third world trash who made it unlivable on the first place? Seriously? New York became a socialist shithole long before Mamdani made it official.
You don't understand what "tax the rich" means in the Western world do you? It means they dump a bunch of random third world migrants into your neighborhood rent free, raise taxes on gas to paint bike lines that no one uses, legalize stabbing and shoplifting, and ban Bitcoin. America's decline is a leftist-induced problem and they all need to be driven out to Hawaii and given a separate team at the Olympics.
"Tax the rich" is a slogan to win votes from over-educated crazy cat ladies. Everyone who says crap like that at this point can be safely labelled an existential threat to English-speaking civilization.
I look at all the worst shithole corrupt nations on earth and see gross and entrenched income and wealth inequality.
The majority of the population live in disadvantaged squalor and cannot ever realise their human potential. That is wasteful and inefficient use of human capital.
Extremes of wealth and poverty are both social and economic failure and much of the USA fits into this category.
Rich pricks have captured too many of our democracies- especially the fiat bankers, property developers, military contractors and corporate lobbies - they are parasites - tax the fuck out of them - if they leave - fantastic - it will be a net gain for everyone remaining.
Only greedy communist sickos think "wealth inequality" (someone else having more money than you) is a problem. You are the problem. All you do is kill everyone that owns a farm and then deflect blame when all the food disappears. But you don't like it when someone steals Maduro's oil? Like he's not a parasite? Fuck you. I've had it with you socialists acting like you're morally superior for all the ways you promise to spend someone else's money.
You think taxes and a statist military are necessary for the common good? Use it. Come rescue Venezuela from Western imperialism. Better yet, try liberating your compatriots right next door. You won't do it because you know you'd get another Nanking and this time the US is taking Japan's side. We don't have a wheelchair-bound socialist bitch in office this round. Try something. I'd rather be dead than have to share this planet with communist scum for another day.
Only tragic Libertarian morons spout such ignorant Bullshit.
Economic inequality has spiked in many countries in the last several decades, raising questions about whether policy should do more to combat it. Until scholars, such as Thomas Piketty, put economic inequality on the public agenda, a common view among policy analysts and government officials was that economic inequality was not a matter of moral concern, as long as the least well-off received adequate resources to satisfy their basic needs (which Debra Satz and Stuart White call the ‘sufficiency’ view in their article) (Frankfurt 1987). This view has come under pressure in recent years. But the questions of what is wrong with inequality, and what is the best way to address it, remain highly contested.
One view, reflected in Benthamite utilitarianism, as well as the more sophisticated social welfare functions used in the public finance literature, is that income inequality reduces aggregate welfare because of the diminishing marginal utility of money. A millionaire values a dollar less than a homeless person does, so moving dollars from the millionaire to the poor enhances aggregate utility. Another view is that economic equality is a distinctive value on its own (Nagel 1995). A third is that it generates pathologies by dividing society into mutually suspicious castes or creating relationships of dependence.
But these claims have been met with scepticism in some quarters. As Satz and White discuss, the commitment to economic equality implies that policy should seek to ‘level down’ the best-off even when such policies are wasteful and do not help the poor. A dollar transferred from a billionaire to a millionaire is a victory from the standpoint of equality; so is burning that dollar rather than transferring it to anyone. Moreover, commitment to economic equality may conflict with other values, such as liberty and equality of opportunity. Although neglected by philosophers, many people seem to value hierarchy for its own sake, as shown by their support for authoritarian rulers or their voluntary association with hierarchical religious, military and social organizations. And equality-promoting policies may distort incentives to work or require substantial administrative costs, leaving fewer resources available for public projects and private consumption. Finally, it is worth observing that the two most powerful engines toward economic equality in the last several decades—the expansion of international trade and of worker migration—have also been the most reviled because of their distributive impacts within nations and their harms to other moral values.1 People who hold the sufficiency view are unbothered by inequality as long as basic needs—which can be defined narrowly to mean nutrition, literacy and shelter, or broadly to encompass a range of capacities necessary for the good life—are satisfied (Nussbaum 2013).
Satz and White offer a pluralistic account of the wrongs of economic inequality (by which they mean inequality of wealth and income).2 They argue that policy should aim to reduce income inequality for three reasons. First, inequality is harmful to human well-being—because it hampers economic growth, undermines social stability, and reflects a misallocation of resources so that some people have too much and others have too little. Second, economic inequality often reflects unfairness, as it can be the result of historical injustices or imperfections in the institutional structure of the market economy. Third, inequality can generate further unfairness and harms to well-being by giving the wealthy excessive political influence, damaging social relationships, and creating caste-like divisions among races and other groups.
Pluralism is all very well, but pluralistic justifications for a policy approach—here, broad-based reduction of economic inequality—are vulnerable to the objection that different justifications imply different remedies. It is possible that the harms identified by Satz and White can be more effectively addressed by policy instruments tailored to those harms than a general policy of reducing economic inequality through taxes and transfers, as they appear to advocate. For example, a more direct way for remedying a historical injustice is to make awards to victims or their descendants, who normally seek public recognition of the harm imposed on them and not just money or restitution of property. A higher income or wealth tax will not accomplish that aim—especially when the victims or their descendants are wealthier than average, as is sometimes the case (e.g. some of the victims of communist-era expropriations). If imperfections in the market economy cause harms, then the natural remedy is correction of those imperfections through market regulation rather than redistribution of wealth. Antitrust law or price regulation, for example, is the normal response to market concentration—and these policy tools both increase efficiency and mitigate economic inequality. Redistribution of wealth is not a good remedy for market concentration because the concentration remains in place, causing a waste of resources. Social instability, segregation, and related ills have traditionally been addressed with reforms in education, zoning, political structure, and much else.
On this view, the appropriate policy approach is to improve institutions—economic, political, educational, etc.—and to do so by using tailored or piecemeal policy reforms that correct whatever imperfections are identified, rather than large-scale redistribution, which is typically conducted through taxes and transfers. Policies that advance economic equality are then justified only by reference to fundamental norms. This view is the traditional view among policy analysts in western countries, and we see it in the division of policy labour in many countries. Some policy analysts specialize in markets and advocate market reforms; others specialize in politics and advocate political reforms; and so on. Meanwhile, other policy analysts recommend tax and welfare reforms that advance distributive justice.
However, this work has assumed that if the basic institutions of society improve, economic inequality will decline as a result—either automatically or as a result of progressive taxes-and-transfers. Rising economic inequality over the last several decades suggests that this assumption is unwarranted. In some countries, rising economic inequality has been accompanied by a degradation of many institutions (the United States is the most prominent example). This raises the possibility that the causation is backwards, or at least partly so: perhaps some degree of economic equality is a necessary premise for effective social, economic, and political institutions, rather than a consequence of them. Satz and White suggest as much, but their discussion is vague, leaving it unclear how one would determine empirically whether economic equality is a necessary premise for the effective operation of the institutions, or not. Below, I fill in some of the detail with the hope of stimulating research in this area.
The market economy
The standard economic justification of the market economy is that it generates wealth (‘efficiency’). If competition is perfect, the distribution of resources will be Pareto-optimal. Most economists recognize that a pareto-optimal economy does not exhaust the responsibility of society. The view is rather that policy should attempt to improve market institutions where they are appropriate, and that other institutions—mainly the tax-and-transfer system—should be used to achieve distributive fairness. That is why questions of economic equality and distributive justice are mostly absent from economic analysis of market institutions, and the focus is instead pareto-optimality or another measure of efficiency.
In a standard model of a competitive market, the initial distribution of wealth (or ‘endowments’) makes no difference to efficiency. To see why, imagine two initial scenarios. In the first, the distribution of wealth is equal. In the second, it is highly unequal. Let a perfect market operate on both scenarios. People in both scenarios will trade until no more mutually beneficial trades can occur; the outcomes are in both cases by definition Pareto-optimal. The degree of inequality at the start might influence the distribution at the end but it does not interfere with market exchange or degrade efficiency. Sellers earn a competitive rate of return regardless of whether they are wealthy or poor. Entrepreneurs with good ideas can self-finance if rich and borrow if poor, so they will produce the same output regardless of their initial wealth. Only consumption will vary with wealth.
However, in the real world of imperfect markets, there are reasons to think that economic inequality can interfere with efficiency. Consider two talented entrepreneurs who are identical in all respects except that one is rich and the other is poor. As before, the rich entrepreneur can self-finance any entrepreneurial activities. The poor entrepreneur is likely to have trouble persuading an investor to contribute capital. In real-world conditions, the poor entrepreneur faces obstacles: she may have talent and a good idea but investors will be sceptical. She cannot credibly disclose her private information about her ability. This means that the poor entrepreneur will have to take costly actions to prove herself. For example, she may go to work for a firm in the relevant industry where she can demonstrate her talents and work her way up the corporate hierarchy. But this will take time from her entrepreneurial activity (by hypothesis, her highest-value use), and she may end up being further bound by covenants not to compete and related restrictions imposed by employers who seek to profit from her talents. Or she may simply forgo the entrepreneurial route for an economically inferior job.
It’s true to a point because there are other reasons rich people live in NY or CA, but they can only tax up to the level that offsets those reasons.
Yeah, it’s always a total toss-up, it's personal. Everyone’s got their own reasons that mean a lot to them. But generally speaking, money-wise, the article is spot on.
Another aspect that rarely gets discussed is the benefit side of the cost benefit analysis.
I think anyone, rich people included, will be more inclined to accept high taxes if they feel like they are getting good value from it. But when the public sector looks entirely corrupt and incompetent, they'll be a lot less willing.
Progressives are rarely willing or able to explain why they think their policies won't just give rise to enormous waste, fraud, and abuse. Maybe I'm naive in terms of political strategy, but I feel like it's easier to challenge them on that than to complain about tax hikes (because you just look miserly if you're rich and you complain about taxes).
Depends on whether they are recipients of the corruption or beneficiaries of the incompetence.
Um, duh, it’s because Team Good is in charge and only Team Bad does anything wrong.
People hate paying taxes, pretty much regardless of their stated politics. I think focusing on how much more they’re taking in taxes is the right approach. Really it should be even more specific: ie “If you’re a family of four trying to survive on $60k, here’s how much more you’ll be paying.”
The notion that raising taxes on high earners comes without economic consequences is one of those comfortable political myths that thrives in theory but collapses in practice. Politicians who imagine that wealthy individuals and the businesses they run will simply absorb new tax burdens indefinitely are ignoring both human nature and decades of migration data.
The wealthy are not immovable fixtures. They are mobile and their capital is mobile. When the balance tips too far against them they move to jurisdictions where the environment is friendlier. This is not an abstract prediction it is observable reality. You can look at IRS migration statistics and state revenue reports to see that income flight follows tax hikes in many high tax areas. The impact is not just on personal wealth either. When successful business owners leave they take their companies their jobs and their investment dollars with them.